Crosswind Landings / "Impossible Landing" TE / Crosswind landing advice
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I am not talking about using the rudder!!! only about touching the ground with one tire at the time.
As an addition, make sure that you add aileron into the wind after touching down.Gr Falcas
Tried it and totally worked:)
It’s if I have a cushion and bounce much less now thanks!
Oh and about landing last few seconds after rwy insight before touch is total “seat of pants” moment for me. Look out from the left of the HUD, disregard any instruments and just fly it down. Works quite good here.
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Yes, this is a dream flightsim game that we’ve received from BMS for free (well, just add Falcon4 CD at the installation). It’s also nirvana time for all those ex-frugal characters who have survived in the hobby till these days.
Thanks,
Sabre.I agree! BMS feels more like falcon5 than an addon for falcon4. It’s pretty much a new sim!
Falcas, thanks for these landing tips. I’m definitely going to try that.
Cheers,
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Hello,
Watch this
Is my landing wrong? I know that i have to land in crab and I think i did not make so bad, but after touch down I cannot keep my nose straight in the middle of the runway even using rudder… Where is the mistake?
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Was fine until touchdown. How much rudder and left brake did you use to keep centered? Just before and during touchdown make all efforts with rudder to align nose with runway, wheels will track that way. If you’re not straight get the nose wheel down and steer.
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What is the Xwind component value?
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Just watched the vid … Xwind is about 15Kts. So within the limits.
EDIT:
While landed, you must correct runway axis with rudder.
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I will try again later… I did not touch toe brakes because I wanted to keep nose high to aerobrake. It seems to me that full rudder right was not enough to keep the jet on the runway while nlg was up. But I will try again and again maybe I did something wrong!
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Remember that with a wind from the right, the jet will want to track right, because the vertical stabilizer is being pushed left. You need to use LEFT rudder, not right!
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Tried again applying full rudder left. This time better because I have started as soon as i touched down but the aircraft was going right again… Full rudder left full rudder no noticeable changes in the path… The only effective way to mantain a straight line was using differential braking, stepping over the left toebrake and leaving untouched the right one.
I have to precise that I was landing with full load of fuel + 2x 370 gallons + 2 aim 120 and one sidewinder. Maybe the inertia is so strong in this case and rudder is not enough.
What do you think?
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With strong crosswind, you cannot keep Nose high and counter the drift with the rudder only… It will bring you out of the runway,
I just bought new rudders with toe brakes, and I might finally able to to it with differential braking.
But until that, what I used to do is gently drop the nosewheel, center my pedals (very important) and then activate the NWS… Then use the rudder CAUTIOUSLY to keep the plane on centerline.
It works fine.
But then again, differential toe brakes might be enough. I must try
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It seems to me that I can’t do both at once. If I want to steer I must release brakes.
Menessis
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I can’t speak for strong crosswinds, but with medium crosswinds I combine rudder+stick and it keeps me centered.
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With some roll input you might get some additional yaw authority but you must be careful not to tip and not to strike the tailplane into the ground. Wing low for landing is very inadvisable. Crab is the indicated method.
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With some roll input you might get some additional yaw authority but you must be careful not to tip and not to strike the tailplane into the ground. Wing low for landing is very inadvisable. Crab is the indicated method.
The roll input to keep center is after all three wheels have touched down, of course. All rudder usage on approach is controlled by the FLCS and shouldn’t have any pilot input.
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The roll input to keep center is after all three wheels have touched down, of course. All rudder usage on approach is controlled by the FLCS and shouldn’t have any pilot input.
roll input CAN be used on two wheels because ARI is deactivated as soon as wheels have speed . This is designed on purpose
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Really? I’ve never tried it. I frequently find my jet drifting off to the side when hitting the brakes even in light x-wind, and I have to use roll input to keep centered. I think I had another thread on it somewhere around here.
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Hi, guys…
I don’t know if I’m wrong, but it seems that the rudder automatically compensate directional control just before touchdown. Is it part of FLCS?
I mean it aligned itself parallel with the runway.
Thanks…:D
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What?
The F-16 undergear is by hearsay like that. You just land with proper velocity vector, and after a while of bouncing get it under control. Yes, I know it sounds pretty miraculous, but I have heard it from a real F-16 pilot standing besides me when landing…
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Hi!
I don’t know if I’m wrong, but it seems that the rudder automatically compensate directional control just before touchdown. Is it part of FLCS?
No … FLCS do not compensate. But you don’t need (must not in fact) “decrab” before touchdown… That may have undesired (dangerous) roll effect is you bounce (WOW switch passing from landing gain to ground gain to landing gain again …) That could be deadly. It is the same on M2000.
In brief: do not touch the rudder except for taxi on ground.