Availability of JSOW AGM-154C
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@Coral36 it’s a blast.
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@Stevie Hi, Stevie. The most up to date info I have found is… https://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/f-16-fighting-falcon-multirole-fighter/?cf-view
It does not list the “podded” JSOW or SLAM/ER as current Viper ordinance, although as far back as 2004 Turkey was considering SLAM-ER’s on their Vipers. I haven’t been able to find which pod it would carry
I did find this- https://theaviationist.com/2017/12/05/two-edwards-based-f-16s-spotted-in-star-wars-canyon-with-mysterious-new-pod/
So, bottom line is, who knows what pod it would use.
But, getting back to SoBad’s original question, in BMS I see no reason you couldn’t put the JSOW A and C ( both GPS only) , the SLAM/ER, and the AWW-13 pod on the Viper. The OFM has done it for testing on the F-35C -
@Stevie said in Availability of JSOW AGM-154C:
@drtbkj - what pod does the Viper use for Datalink? I know it’s not the AWW-13, which is what the USN uses. But a D/L pod is required to support the C1.
I should think it would be the same pods used for SLAM E/R…if the Viper can support SLAM E/R.
F16’s can’t carry the -C1 variant of AGM154, that is currently developed for F/A-18E/F, F-35A/C
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@drtbkj - heh…I live a “few” miles downhill from Star Wars Canyon. A very well educated guess tells me that is NOT a Datalink pod. Also, given that the pic of the same pod on that A-7 dates to 1987, it ain’t “new”. But that’s all I’m going to speculate.
Using a JSOW C without Datalink would be an abject waste of ordnance. And frankly, I don’t think the JSOW C falls within an applicable Viper mission set, really.
I do think that the USAF does have a Datalink pod in inventory…but I have no idea what one it would be. If the Viper ever employed Walleye, it is probably that pod, or a variant of it. Pods evolve too…
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/aww-12.htm
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@Stevie agreed. I still can’t find any evidence that the USAF acquired the C/C-1. All media, news, open source docs, and references always say Navy in regards to it and it seems USAF went all in on JASSM.
That’s not to say C/C-1 hasn’t been tested by the USAF/LM/Raytheon at Edwards. But any reference to F-16s and the AGM-154Cs are for foreign air forces it seems. They are definitely supported by modern F-16s. So yes, BMS should support the C/C-1 but I can find no evidence that it is in USAF inventory and should not technically be in BMS USAF squadron stores, but to each his own with the power of your own edits detailed here.
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@Snake122 - that actually makes a lot more sense. And there are no real weapons test ranges at Edwards, so if it has been tested at all it would have been at Eglin.
Dunno if any FMS Customers ever bought JSOW, really…in any variant. Just because something is available doesn’t mean anyone buys it. THe T-45 retains the gun pod capability of the basic Hawk, but the USSN didn’t buy any gun pods, forex.
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US Arms sales list this (which may or may not be accurate)
Turkey AGM-154A-1 and C delivered 2007-2008
Poland AGM-154C Delivered 2007 - 2008
Greece AGM-154C Delivered 2009TuAF
HAF
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@Migbuster add as potentials but unknown variants:
United Arab Emirates
Morocco
Singapore
NetherlandsThere’s a few more operators as well that don’t have F-16s, like Canada and Australia with their F/A-18s.
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@Migbuster - the C makes sense, because it doesn’t require Datalink.
Interesting to see them hanging on a VER/CVER (at least that’s what the Navy calls them). I wouldn’t think you could do a multiple release and have room for the wings to deploy…unless you have limitations on the Interval.
Pretty sure all Hornet operators employ all variants, unless they are prohibited by Treaty. I know of at least one Country that used to be, but have also heard that Treaty has since sunset - don’t really know for sure.
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While you are resupplying. Remember to Arm up some B61s in the inventory just in case you start losing the ground war.
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@Jumpstart5179
In what program can this be found?
Or in what file?
Squadron Stores Editor and Hardpoint Data Editor ?
Добавьте JSOW-C в запасы эскадрильи.
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Отредактируйте точку крепления, чтобы принять оружие.
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@Suriken this is found in the editor. The squadron has to have it in their stores and the aircraft has to have it loaded onto a hardpoint for it to be visible in BMS.
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@Jumpstart5179 found I:\Falcon BMS 4.37\Bin\x64\Editor
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@Suriken that would be it. Under the editor it would be squadron stores, then select the airframe, then edit the aircraft hardpoint and save.