Should I have to install Microprose Falcon 4 CD to install and run BMS ?
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third I don’t want to log in to a PC which will be use without me .Or buy multiple times for one account for once event. if it could be one account to multible falcon4 use.
And also don’t want to use my own account because it will be mess up my stats and configYou could create a secondary Steam Account and use family share. So your stats won’t be messed up. Even so you can share with up to 5 accounts only one user at a time can play game
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@Eagle10 are you sure this is TOS compliant?
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@repvez
A couple of solutions to your issue –- buy from GoG and as I understand, you can install it anywhere (no DRM) so just save the installer to a flash drive and install
- create a “LAN account” on Steam and buy it from there. As it is a trash account, who cares about stats? Just remember to remove your CC info
- hotspot onto your phone to do the installs. You can pre-download the BMS installer but I think it still checks the internet for the latest Launcher or any other Hot Fixes.
The F4.0 install itself is small, it’s the BMS installers (3.8GB) that is bigger and would definitely benefit from being pre-downloaded onto a flash drive.
If the PC will be used to demonstrate BMS after you leave, then maybe #2 and #3 would be the best solution as the “LAN account” will technically own a copy of F4.0. If you use #1, then YOU own the copy of F4.0 that the LAN PC is using. Small details and technicalities but with the situation of BMS, it is best to be in the clear for yourself and for the BMS community, all for the cost of £4.99
Please remember that BMS is also for non-commercial use only. There may be some options for commercial or extended-demo use but best to refer to the devs for clarification on this.
Good luck!
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@Atlas said in Should I have to install Microprose Falcon 4 CD to install and run BMS ?:
@repvez
A couple of solutions to your issue –- buy from GoG and as I understand, you can install it anywhere (no DRM) so just save the installer to a flash drive and install.
Good luck!
I had wondered about GoG as a Steam alternative, but have little experience with it. As Semler and Oak were describing, the question with Steam becomes if the f4.exe is something that is downloaded for offline play( and thus could be transferred to a flash drive), not to mention the Steam Library issue.
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@drtbkj
Why hack it when F4.0 on Steam costs £4.99 or the Falcon Collection on GoG is £6.99?If Steam accounts and what-not is an issue, then just make a new Steam account solely for this purpose and spend £4.99, problem solved and no headaches.
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@Atlas said in Should I have to install Microprose Falcon 4 CD to install and run BMS ?:
@drtbkj
Why hack it when F4.0 on Steam costs £4.99 or the Falcon Collection on GoG is £6.99?If Steam accounts and what-not is an issue, then just make a new Steam account solely for this purpose and spend £4.99, problem solved and no headaches.
Hi, Atlas. I completely agree. The issue is no internet connection where the Op wants to set up. So, what we seem to have is…
- Putting the BMS Installers on a sufficiently sized flash drive is not an issue, and he can install off those at his event.
- As Semler said, Steam (Idk about GoG)can be set to run in off line mode, so theoretically he should be able to put it on a flash drive, too. And, I agree he can simply make a new account for his project.
- So, we just have to enable the pc at his event to “see” f4.exe, right?
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@drtbkj
In today’s day and age, can OP not hotspot the PC to his mobile phone?
Even if this is not possible, wouldn’t the GoG option be possible and even simpler/safer than doing a registry hack? -
@Atlas Good point about the hotspot.
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@Eagle10 said in Should I have to install Microprose Falcon 4 CD to install and run BMS ?:
the Original Falcon 4 on CD can not be installed on WIN10/11.
I just reinstalled Falcon 4.0 on Win 10 & 11 devices from original CD so there is technical reason that doesn’t work.
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@Zeus can confirm. I have original disk and windows 10 and no problem installing.
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@Carbide @Zeus
Sometimes, it’s not an issue of Win10/Win11 but rather the physical media degrading through time but the user thinks it’s the OS rather than the CD. I still have my CDs for collection purposes but never really installed through it. Thinking about it, I didn’t have a CD drive on my PCs over the last 12-15 years now! The last time I needed to access data from a CD, I just used one of those external USB-connected drives. -
@Atlas I did not think about the media degrading. It has been since 4.32 that I installed Falcon 4 from my disk. I’m sure I would think it was my system that was the issue and not the disk if I had trouble installing.
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@Carbide people used to have serious difficulty running the 1998 cdrom installer
just imagine: it’s a 16-bit setup.exe stub that is checking for things like DirectX 6
the reason it’s working well lately, or at all in the year 2024, is because the app-compat team at Windows has been doing amazing work
I don’t know but I’d bet a dollar that someone from BMS team, or the community, who works at MS added this to their app-compat support list
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@airtex2019 When I built my computer all those years ago I purposely added the CD player just so I could install Falcon 4 and never used the CD player again. On my next build I will go with a Steam or GOG copy of Falcon 4 and skip the CD player.
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@Carbide
Media degrading, CD laser going wonky, a lot of things can go wrong… that won’t go wrong with a digital installer.I fully recommend the Falcon Collection on GoG — no DRM, you get all other Falcon versions, plus you get a PDF copy of Art of the Kill – that PDF alone is worth the £6.99 price tag IMO!! If you’re not in a rush, you can even wait for a sale and get the Falcon Collection for even cheaper!
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@Atlas Thanks, I already have the Art of the Kill video and PDF. I haven’t had to reinstall Falcon 4 so I haven’t made the jump to a digital copy yet. And honestly when I do upgrade my PC I will probably keep the SSD I run BMS on and use it for just BMS and other gaming, and get another SSD for everything else. If I do that I won’t need to reinstall but I haven’t made up my mind on that yet. I guess I will see what the budget is at that time and make the decision based on that.
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@Carbide said in Should I have to install Microprose Falcon 4 CD to install and run BMS ?:
I will see what the budget is at that time and make the decision based on that.
At £6.99 full price, I don’t think it’s going to break any sort of budget!
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@Atlas LOL! No, I was talking about the SSD. $6.99 will not break the bank. If fact Falcon4 would be considered mandatory spending.