Tom's Cat
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Is having the HUD displayed on the front glass really what you want me to do?
Sure, why not…HUD symbology displayed on the front glass is one of the most distinct features of the Tomact cockpit (except for late B models and the D model)
With regard to the OSB butons I absolutely agree with your plan – as long as we are stuck with the F16 MFDs there will always be the need for OSB buttons.
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I think what they’re saying is establish whether your pit will be F-14A+ or F-14B(upgrade), or do both and tie them to specific models.
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@ToS:
Sure, why not…HUD symbology displayed on the front glass is one of the most distinct features of the Tomact cockpit (except for late B models and the D model)
Point taken. I will keep for now, and see what some other people say. I personally would like to see them “original” but “MLU’D” as well. Having a HUD I think would just look better, and make me think my jet got an upgrade. After all we are in 2014 now, and she has long been out of service….
If I had an F14b sitting in my garage oh hangar, I would have a HUD
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@ToS:
Actually the B-model Sparrow Hawk HUDs (the ones with the new combiner glass) used the exactly same symbology than the F14D HUD
@ Nizmo: why don´t you use the frontshield as the HUD display as in real life?..IMHO there´s no need to put in a fake, unrealistic combiner glass; the Sparrow Hawk HUD of the later (post-2002) B models came with a new ACMI panel, which is quite different from the A and B model panels in your 3D pit –your current 3D pit is not an accurate replication of an A model or late B model pit…
Ok, could be. The symbology looked different in the cruise video’s, but I guess it isn’t then.
@Nizmo: why not go for a late model B? That one has a hud, so you don’t have to delete it then. The symbology on the A and old B front shield doesn’t look anything like the F-16 hud symbology, whereas the late B’s and D’s look a bit more like a modern F-16 hud.
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Ok, could be. The symbology looked different in the cruise video’s, but I guess it isn’t then.
@Nizmo: why not go for a late model B? That one has a hud, so you don’t have to delete it then. The symbology on the A and old B front shield doesn’t look anything like the F-16 hud symbology, whereas the late B’s and D’s look a bit more like a modern F-16 hud.
@ HUD symbology: the videos were probably made in different master modes or declutter modes – please keep in mind that the D-model featured a pretty complex avionics suit.
A late B-model cockpit would indeed be the ideal solution – however, it featured a distinctly different ACMI panel, which was more similar to the F14D cockpit (Master Arm Switch moved to left, ACM Jet on the right, and missle status indicators were moved to the VDI frame:
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That’s an old F-14A RIO seat. The F-14B upgrade and F-14D have a much better digital display, though all of them could display the LANTIRN image without any problems.
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Hey guys, sorry for the 3 month hiatus (in which i lost most of my work and i had to start all over again), but i’m back now. And i have 2 files for testing if someone is interested. One FM and one AFM. I’m still not totally pleased with the thrust values for above 10 000ft, but they just might do for now. I have completely out of the Falcon community, so what’s new? Have there been any upgrades in the last 3 months? New 3D models? New skins? Is anyone else working on the cat?
Cheers and happy holidays
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Are there any other visual differences between an A and B pit, aside from the HUD present on late B’s?
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Are there any other visual differences between an A and B pit, aside from the HUD present on late B’s?
visually, no.
F110 Engines in the B’s
APG/71 RadarThis F-14B is AKA “Bombcat”
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Yeah, the F110’s have different exhaust nozzles and there can be some external differences considering the ECM blisters on some aircraft, but i had never seen the inside of their cockpits side by side. Thanks for the info
Do you plan to bind this cockpit (without the HUD of course) on the F-14A as well? -
As long as we have the AFM’s to support each of the models with the different thrust, sure.
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The B has the SAME AWG-9 as the F-14A, only the F-14D had the APG-71. The F-14B(upgrade) is known as the Bombcat, as is any LANTIRN equipped jet, but the B(upgrade) were known as it first. It came into the fleet as an F-14A+, the best air-to air fighter <opinion>until the F-14D came along.</opinion>
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The B has the SAME AWG-9 as the F-14A, only the F-14D had the APG-71. The F-14B(upgrade) is known as the Bombcat, as is any LANTIRN equipped jet, but the B(upgrade) were known as it first. It came into the fleet as an F-14A+, the best air-to air fighter <opinion>until the F-14D came along.</opinion>
My information states the F14B not F14+ has APG71. Either way, in BMS the importance of the differences between B and A version are that the B incorporates the F110 engine.
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At some point or other, the canards were also disabled in fleet service. Only Iran operates the Tomcat with the canard foreplanes today.
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Were the glove vanes disabled on the A’s as well? Or did the B’s and D’s not get them to begin with?
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I almost want to say that we covered a lot of this stuff in the F-14D cockpit discussion thread, and maybe the “Tom’s Cat” thread as well. According to Wikipedia, it seems most F-14s would have been the A variant, with few new-build B’s and D’s being manufactured. I don’t know when the vanes were disabled, but it seems to have been a universal omission from the US fleet. I’m guessing that new-build F-14Ds and rebuilds did not have the vanes installed, but I cannot say for certain.
Oh yeah, and Dick Cheney is a ******.
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I don’t recall the exact numbers as well, but roughly at least 3/4 of all the cats were probably A’s, possibly some of them rebuilt later.