Tom's Cat
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@ToS:
Actually the B-model Sparrow Hawk HUDs (the ones with the new combiner glass) used the exactly same symbology than the F14D HUD
@ Nizmo: why don´t you use the frontshield as the HUD display as in real life?..IMHO there´s no need to put in a fake, unrealistic combiner glass; the Sparrow Hawk HUD of the later (post-2002) B models came with a new ACMI panel, which is quite different from the A and B model panels in your 3D pit –your current 3D pit is not an accurate replication of an A model or late B model pit…
Ok, could be. The symbology looked different in the cruise video’s, but I guess it isn’t then.
@Nizmo: why not go for a late model B? That one has a hud, so you don’t have to delete it then. The symbology on the A and old B front shield doesn’t look anything like the F-16 hud symbology, whereas the late B’s and D’s look a bit more like a modern F-16 hud.
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Ok, could be. The symbology looked different in the cruise video’s, but I guess it isn’t then.
@Nizmo: why not go for a late model B? That one has a hud, so you don’t have to delete it then. The symbology on the A and old B front shield doesn’t look anything like the F-16 hud symbology, whereas the late B’s and D’s look a bit more like a modern F-16 hud.
@ HUD symbology: the videos were probably made in different master modes or declutter modes – please keep in mind that the D-model featured a pretty complex avionics suit.
A late B-model cockpit would indeed be the ideal solution – however, it featured a distinctly different ACMI panel, which was more similar to the F14D cockpit (Master Arm Switch moved to left, ACM Jet on the right, and missle status indicators were moved to the VDI frame:
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That’s an old F-14A RIO seat. The F-14B upgrade and F-14D have a much better digital display, though all of them could display the LANTIRN image without any problems.
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Hey guys, sorry for the 3 month hiatus (in which i lost most of my work and i had to start all over again), but i’m back now. And i have 2 files for testing if someone is interested. One FM and one AFM. I’m still not totally pleased with the thrust values for above 10 000ft, but they just might do for now. I have completely out of the Falcon community, so what’s new? Have there been any upgrades in the last 3 months? New 3D models? New skins? Is anyone else working on the cat?
Cheers and happy holidays
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Are there any other visual differences between an A and B pit, aside from the HUD present on late B’s?
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Are there any other visual differences between an A and B pit, aside from the HUD present on late B’s?
visually, no.
F110 Engines in the B’s
APG/71 RadarThis F-14B is AKA “Bombcat”
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Yeah, the F110’s have different exhaust nozzles and there can be some external differences considering the ECM blisters on some aircraft, but i had never seen the inside of their cockpits side by side. Thanks for the info
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As long as we have the AFM’s to support each of the models with the different thrust, sure.
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The B has the SAME AWG-9 as the F-14A, only the F-14D had the APG-71. The F-14B(upgrade) is known as the Bombcat, as is any LANTIRN equipped jet, but the B(upgrade) were known as it first. It came into the fleet as an F-14A+, the best air-to air fighter <opinion>until the F-14D came along.</opinion>
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The B has the SAME AWG-9 as the F-14A, only the F-14D had the APG-71. The F-14B(upgrade) is known as the Bombcat, as is any LANTIRN equipped jet, but the B(upgrade) were known as it first. It came into the fleet as an F-14A+, the best air-to air fighter <opinion>until the F-14D came along.</opinion>
My information states the F14B not F14+ has APG71. Either way, in BMS the importance of the differences between B and A version are that the B incorporates the F110 engine.
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At some point or other, the canards were also disabled in fleet service. Only Iran operates the Tomcat with the canard foreplanes today.
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Were the glove vanes disabled on the A’s as well? Or did the B’s and D’s not get them to begin with?
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I almost want to say that we covered a lot of this stuff in the F-14D cockpit discussion thread, and maybe the “Tom’s Cat” thread as well. According to Wikipedia, it seems most F-14s would have been the A variant, with few new-build B’s and D’s being manufactured. I don’t know when the vanes were disabled, but it seems to have been a universal omission from the US fleet. I’m guessing that new-build F-14Ds and rebuilds did not have the vanes installed, but I cannot say for certain.
Oh yeah, and Dick Cheney is a ******.
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I don’t recall the exact numbers as well, but roughly at least 3/4 of all the cats were probably A’s, possibly some of them rebuilt later.
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I almost want to say that we covered a lot of this stuff in the F-14D cockpit discussion thread, and maybe the “Tom’s Cat” thread as well. According to Wikipedia, it seems most F-14s would have been the A variant, with few new-build B’s and D’s being manufactured. I don’t know when the vanes were disabled, but it seems to have been a universal omission from the US fleet. I’m guessing that new-build F-14Ds and rebuilds did not have the vanes installed, but I cannot say for certain.
Oh yeah, and Dick Cheney is a ******.
Sure, most were F14A’s. All F14+ would become F14B. The A variant is capable of only retarded ground munitions. Also as discussed the B model has the better engines.
If there were 2 models of F14 to make, IMO there the B and D.
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Sure, most were F14A’s. All F14+ would become F14B. The A variant is capable of only retarded ground munitions. Also as discussed the B model has the better engines.
If there were 2 models of F14 to make, IMO there the B and D.
The A variant is capable of dropping all GBU series LGBS, dumb bombs, CBUs, and mines. It only cannot carry and launch JDAM because the F-14A has a MIl-STD-1553 datbus vice the required -1760 datbus needed for JDAM. The F-14A still had the same LANTIRN pod in the same place. Use VF-211 and VF-154s history for research on this( VF-211 reverted back to the F-14A from the F-14A+/B and flew with them until 2003ish.).
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Were the glove vanes disabled on the A’s as well? Or did the B’s and D’s not get them to begin with?
All F-14Bs and F-14Ds, new build and rebuilds, had no glove vanes. They were either built without them, or had them removed during their remanufacture.