Offering materials to BMS…
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These “hurdles” have been encountered by many others and, arguably, solutions have been found.
Look here and scroll down to licenses types.
IMO, in this situation the “Attribution CC BY” or “Attribution-NonCommercial CC BY-NC” licenses would fit best.At no point would the creator loose rights to continue to work on and update his original creation.
GPL is also another great license candidate
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This is why…again…I’m offering my services…;)…okay nevermind… You guys know how to reach me.
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I am only involved in a prospective work about the C-130. I trust this piece of work needs time to get prepared before startup, to avoid what is happening right now. What I see is only giving BMS the model they exactly need. I won’t hide my wish to join, one day, if they need me, BMS team, as a 3D artist. I am absolutely not intetested to keep things I work on with passion for myself only. Moreover, regarding the standardization policy BMS initiated, I am modeling beyond their rules, because I want to give my work the best compatibility with what exists already. When the F-2 or the C-130 will be given to BMS as a gift from me (and team mates, if there is) , they can do everything they want with it, as long as this is freeware. My 3D models have no reason to exist, if not designed for a proper integration within BMS software. I have a life outside of BMS which is a game only as I see it ; as a former flight officer in the french air force, I flought real fighter aircrafts, right now, BMS is a great entertainement ; fishing, playing soccer or modeling looks very same to me. So I am not interested to spend time on licence things : I do, BMS achieve what they want with it, simply.
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About BMS intergration…
Give, or give not.
But no licence blahblah … If it is to loose time dealing with licence stuff, we will be faster by doing the models ourselves without worying about licence stuff.
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About BMS intergration…
Give, or give not.
But no licence blahblah … If it is to loose time dealing with licence stuff, we will be faster by doing the models ourselves without worying about licence stuff.
This was exactly what I meant.
And this is the reason why what is done (I speak for myself, because I indirectly started this topic) by me is given to BMS with the full authority.
Because what I do has no reason to exist without BMS.
Regards,
Radium
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About BMS intergration…
Give, or give not.
But no licence blahblah … If it is to loose time dealing with licence stuff, we will be faster by doing the models ourselves without worying about licence stuff.
hopefully we didnt put a licence on every line of code we wrote in BMS ! LOOOOOL
my opinion : i find it disappointing to see people "even thinking of licence or rights " when BMS provides >6 years of work for free without any DB lock….
Giving is giving, taking it back is stealing
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Because what I do has no reason to exist without BMS.
Regards,
Radium
This is the best thing I read since I landed on this forum. No offense for anyone.
Keep you art ( a present from nature ) and share it.
Sorry for OT.
Regards
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hopefully we didnt put a licence on every line of code we wrote in BMS ! LOOOOOL
my opinion : i find it disappointing to see people "even thinking of licence or rights " when BMS provides >6 years of work for free without any DB lock….
Giving is giving, taking it back is stealing
whilst I support BMS’ decision to only accept others work given full permissions to use it, I dont see your point here. People want to protect their work - I recall reading of the last time a falcon flavor used others work without permission, and charged for their product… people were not happy.
given that BMS release their work under a fairly specific license, it seems reasonable to me for others to release their work under their own set of terms and conditions. given they do so however, it seems fair in turn for BMS to make their own decision on whether those terms and conditions are appropriate to include anothers work in the sim.
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it seems reasonable to me for others to release their work under their own set of terms and conditions.
As said previously: Give, or give not. No conditions needed.
Otherwise, materials will simply remains under full original author authority via external mods.
Nobody is forced to share or offer anything to BMS… We are just saying in this thread that, if ppl want to contributes, it is without conditions, otherwise we will prefer to do without.
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I seen this coming, “and that’s all I have to say about that”, “run Forest run”
Well, for now……
:munch:
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Otherwise, materials will simply remains under full original author authority via external mods.
And no support from BMS me think’s Dee-Jay
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Morning Shad
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Morning Shad
So are you still up, or just getting up ?
Latter need a bit more sleep, its a bitch getting old.
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I guess this is a forever loop.
Kinda trolling.
It’s like a contract : you are free to sign it, but if you sign it, you accept the terms.
Terms are simple for BMS : you give, they have the full authority.
No need to complain about it.
I accepted it.
As I said, my work have absolutely no reason to exist without BMS, while BMS absolutely don’t need me.
So, to exist, I need them.
A so much simple syllogism, everyone should understand and integrate.
If BMS want my F-2, I give and it’s becomes theirs. If they need updates, they can ask me, or do as they want. I don’t mind.
It’s just a model made to entertain people.
I have more to gain from BMS than they have from me.
This is as simple, in the end.
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Very simple indded.
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“Resistance is futile…”(in my Star Trek’s Borg voice)
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I guess this is a forever loop.
Kinda trolling.
It’s like a contract : you are free to sign it, but if you sign it, you accept the terms.
Terms are simple for BMS : you give, they have the full authority.
No need to complain about it.
I accepted it.
As I said, my work have absolutely no reason to exist without BMS, while BMS absolutely don’t need me.
So, to exist, I need them.
A so much simple syllogism, everyone should understand and integrate.
If BMS want my F-2, I give and it’s becomes theirs. If they need updates, they can ask me, or do as they want. I don’t mind.
It’s just a model made to entertain people.
I have more to gain from BMS than they have from me.
This is as simple, in the end.
Exactly my sentiment man. Alternative: Do I want to spend my time running BMS which for me would be the only situation suitable for me to make decisions such as those discussed in this thread? Answer: Nope. Conclusion: Comply.
Result: Let’s all enjoy our collaborative efforts under the managed umbrella of the BMS team.
Who a fan? I’m a fan.
This discussion does seem to turn into a catch-22 and there’s a lot of repitition and misunderstanding/interpretation going on BUT I still enjoyed the whole exchange. Nuff’ said from my end.
Thanks to the team, whoever they are, and all ‘non-team’ contributors and users of this crazy ass 1998 piece of upgraded and improved beyond any recognition software
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? I do not follow you? …
he means that if mods are from the creator and not from BMS those will not be supported by bms as u say now… have a clean install and report your bug or crash log.
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he means that if mods are from the creator and not from BMS those will not be supported by bms as u say now… have a clean install and report your bug or crash log.
It is like this since the beginning.