Mid-Air Collision
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So recently, I was doing a strike mission in BMS. We took off, were cruising to the target, and bam! I blow up. My initial reaction was, “darn stupid SA-10s!”. In the debriefing, however, I realized that I had hit an ROK F-16. It was just cruising along, perpendicular to me, and we somehow, in an incredibly unlikely turn of events, managed to be at the exact same place, at the same time, at the same altitude. It’s one of those things that I never thought would happen to me, just because it’s so unlikely. We all figure it will happen to “somebody else”. Of course, we’re all somebody else, to somebody else.
Anyway, has this ever happened to anybody else around here?
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That’s why approach and area radar control services exist or procedures control if radar is not available
We dont’t have that in BMS, at least for area… -
I remember my squad mate colliding with himself once in the air. At least that’s what it said in the debrief
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I remember my squad mate colliding with himself once in the air. At least that’s what it said in the debrief
i remember a squadmate crossing in front of me on the runway and taking me out….
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i remember a squadmate crossing in front of me on the runway and taking me out….
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i remember a squadmate crossing in front of me on the runway and taking me out….
Hey, this was about mid air collisions :mad:
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I remember my squad mate colliding with himself once in the air. At least that’s what it said in the debrief
That’s not strange , it’s very likely that he was in the same position than himself at the same time…
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That’s why approach and area radar control services exist or procedures control if radar is not available
We dont’t have that in BMS, at least for area…Yeah, it probably wouldn’t have happened for real; AWACS (hopefully) would’ve warned me of the traffic. That said, I’ve been much more watchful for traffic with my real flying in the Cessna 150 since it happened.
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When I had the oportunity I always took some pilot friend to see the radar screens and I always told them: “You see! you are not alone up there…”. Now that I fly BMS I’m very aware of it (and we don’t have civilian traffic but not factor traffic advisory either)
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All my mid-airs have been intentionally caused by me. The AI never saw them comming!
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You have to make difference between a mid-air and a good interception lol
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So recently, I was doing a strike mission in BMS. We took off, were cruising to the target, and bam! I blow up. My initial reaction was, “darn stupid SA-10s!”. In the debriefing, however, I realized that I had hit an ROK F-16. It was just cruising along, perpendicular to me, and we somehow, in an incredibly unlikely turn of events, managed to be at the exact same place, at the same time, at the same altitude. It’s one of those things that I never thought would happen to me, just because it’s so unlikely. We all figure it will happen to “somebody else”. Of course, we’re all somebody else, to somebody else.
Anyway, has this ever happened to anybody else around here?
In BMS you are not under radar control and there is no ACO … Hence you have to look outside. (no solution except using you own radar under IMC conditions.)
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A very near miss proved an effective lesson in keeping my head out of the pit
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Happened to me a couple of months ago. It was night and I had just received a clear picture from AWACS. Then all of a sudden, BOOM! The good news…got credit for the kill!!!
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takes real talent to collide in all that sky
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@Cik:
takes real talent to collide in all that sky
You think.
IRL, econfliction IS THE biggest part of operation and COMAO planning.
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During combat operations, formation take off’s and landings is a no no. At take off, fly out with burners and steady climb rate out to about 3,000 ft. Perform a mild 30* pull/turn on to your next steer point. Your wingy should be in trail at this point. Then set up your climb to combat altitude and back off that burner. Your wingy will play catch up. If your flying online, this should be a common practice. When landing, the ATC should marshal you to a proper “initials” point at the inner marker. Keep your eye open for any cross traffic that might appear during your final. If your AI wingy is still in formation, command it to RTB. The ATC should start to marshal your wingy. This should leave you free and clear on the approach. As for landing online, landing in formation is again a no no in combat. But, if your just having fun, then be prepared to have misshaps from time to time.
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During combat operations, formation take off’s and landings is a no no. (….) As for landing online, landing in formation is again a no no in combat. But, if your just having fun, then be prepared to have misshaps from time to time.
My poor internet did teach this lesson rather fast. There’s a good reason why not to do it- but it looks real cool
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My poor internet did teach this lesson rather fast. There’s a good reason why not to do it- but it looks real cool
Never said it didn’t look cool!
With online squads, practice will keep the mishaps from popping up too much if you go for that sort of thing. But, if it’s RL combat operations, NO FORMATION TAKE OFF’s with live weapons. It will usually be 1 jet ramping up and taking off while the second jet spools and takes off shortly afterwards giving proper spacing.
If your having fun (which I like to fly most of the time in bms) then have at it. But, it won’t do your log book much good per every mishap.