Tried the ramp start tutorial…...
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Alot of buttons are hidden behind the pilot’s legs…
I couldn’t find the radar helmet light CW switch?I have a serious headache just from trying this.
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@smasha:
Alot of buttons are hidden behind the pilot’s legs…
I couldn’t find the radar helmet light CW switch?The radar helmet light. That is a new one on me.
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@smasha:
Alot of buttons are hidden behind the pilot’s legs…
I couldn’t find the radar helmet light CW switch?I have a serious headache just from trying this.
Describe a little bit more. Not sure what you are referring to.
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Describe a little bit more. Not sure what you are referring to.
The tutorial tells you to check that warning lights are on but I didn’t see anything lit probably because the pilots legs are covering the left side of the warning light console.
Alot of switches are covered on the left side as well.
I couldn’t finish the ramp start because a button was not there that I needed to press.I just want to fly man not play CIV 5 with all this strategy and management stuff.
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The radar helmet light. That is a new one on me.
The button to adjust the brightness of the helmet hud not the symbology dial that controls the brightness of the main hud galss.
LOL this sim is so bloody anal.:D
Poor pilots that have to learn all this stuff.
Really respect em.
P.S. I reckon thre is ONE WAY of trying to learn this!
Do as the Airforce,Army ,Navy do!
Get into the bloody gym and train HARD.
Then my mind will be fresh!I’m going to do that.
This sim needs a relaxed mind.
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print out Red Dogs checklist and have it by you when you start the jet.
then after a month, keep it with you on the bus etc and try to memorise it.
Once you have it word for word, start doing your ramps without the checklist.
That is harder than the onscreen tutorial LOL.
Alot of the symbology I don’t know so what it says on the checklist will mean something different to me.
I have enough paper everywhere now with profiles.
i need two more pairs of arms.
And 3 more PCs to run all the tutorial stuff on lol.
Oh ,and Zappa’s brain would come in handy!
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I have the WDP mod with the pilot’s legs installed.
So I can have that or chop off my poor pilot’s legs so I can see more of the cockpit panels inside.
Hmm legless pilot or brainless fight?
P.S. Now that would be a great mod.
A button to turn off/on the pilots legs in an instant.
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@smasha:
That is harder than the onscreen tutorial LOL.
Alot of the symbology I don’t know so what it says on the checklist will mean something different to me.
I have enough paper everywhere now with profiles.
i need two more pairs of arms.
And 3 more PCs to run all the tutorial stuff on lol.
Oh ,and Zappa’s brain would come in handy!
I had some trouble with the timing/instructions in the BMS tutorial as well. Here’s what I did:
- Used Red Dog’s start check list
- Used YouTube 72nd VFW ramp start video.
From those I made note cards with the step-by-step I needed to follow to ramp start, including any keypress (keyfile) short-cuts needed.
Eventually, I optimized those in accordance with what BMS requires.
After a fairly short period, I had memorized the various functions/commands/steps to ramp start.
It took me about 3 iterations to nail down the initial note cards that were effectively ‘my check list’.
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Three times for a brainy bloke.
That means 300 times for me.
Sobs in the corner. :wfish:P.S. I have to get rid of the pilot’s legs to ramp start then I need his legs back again once I get in the air.:D
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@smasha:
Three times for a brainy bloke.
That means 300 times for me.
….No, no, no. I think you mis-understand.
I had to start over on making my personal check list at least 3 times.
It took additional repitions to memorize my check list. On the other hand, the purpose of a check list is to USE it, not memorize it.
YOU don’t have to memorize anything. You just have to write the steps down in a way that makes sense to you.
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Well it’s pointless now because of the pilot’s legs problem.
Have to get the steering wheel out lads.
BMS gives me massive anxiety.
That’s my problem not BMS’s .I just get major anxiety and depression when trying to figure this sim out.
Iracing I can go around the track and move and it wrings the anxiety out of the system.
TY for all your help.
I am not good enough up top to EVER learn this.
Iracing you can GET it by just lapping around and around and soon you get the hang of it but this sim requires a fully tuned brain.
Even Ace Combat gives me anxiety on Steam lol.
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Well I have the in cockpit checklist printed and to my surprise ,it is way easier to understand than the one I remember from years ago.
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Glad to hear your not giving up yet!
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@smasha:
Well I have the in cockpit checklist printed and to my surprise ,it is way easier to understand than the one I remember from years ago.
Just a suggestion go without the pilot legs mod off the bat until you are more comfortable with the aircraft. If you have TrackIR or FreeTrack you can bend your head around to see other switches etc. If not I would skip the legs mod until you get some kind of head tracking hooked up.
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Just a suggestion go without the pilot legs mod off the bat until you are more comfortable with the aircraft. If you have TrackIR or FreeTrack you can bend your head around to see other switches etc. If not I would skip the legs mod until you get some kind of head tracking hooked up.
+1
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Just a suggestion go without the pilot legs mod off the bat until you are more comfortable with the aircraft. If you have TrackIR or FreeTrack you can bend your head around to see other switches etc. If not I would skip the legs mod until you get some kind of head tracking hooked up.
I have track ir 5 with the poo clip pro.
The BMS training script strictly says DO NOT USE track ir and TURN ON THE MOUSE views dadada.
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I think the training script won’t run, or something like that, if you have TIR running. But since you have a checklist go ahead and use head tracking. Either that or lose the legs.
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Well I can’t do anything yet until I find a workable CH profile.
Scoured the CH Hangar ,downloaded 5 and none of em work due to BMS changing the keystrokes in the latest update.
I do have Burner’s profile but that doesn’t list the hotas controls when I print it out ,only the native names of the CH buttons.
DRIVING ME INSANE!Man ,setting up this sim as just as hard as the sim itself!
P.S.Anyone who has a workable CH products Fighter stick,Pro Throttle and Pro Pedals BMS UPDATE 7 profile,I will bloody pay you for it!
I don’t know how to reveal the keystrokes for the buttons in CH Manager,you think you could right click the mouse and the layer underneath would be revealed but it’s more cryptic than that.
I do miss Foxy from the Cougar sobs.:(
Jagstang’s profile sobs.
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Well found the best profile hidden away in the BMS user folder under config (not CH).:wfish:
Working nicely but mouse wheel zoom isn’t working.:wfish:
Track IR 5 is too fiddgety when moving close to the side panels and is not reliable even with the poo clip pro. :wfish:
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I always wonder why people don’t create their OWN profile? More often then not it’s actually better because you don’t have to learn somebody else’s, and you gain knowledge about how the real HOTAS works in the process. I can’t tell you how many times I have to help guys with their config because they use some generic one that always leaves out a critical function to make up for something that THEY PERSONALLY don’t really need (Ex: switches for POV; or landing gear when you can simply hit the “g” key etc). Tailor it to YOUR flying/fighting style, and as you gain experience, you will most likely change it anyway to suit your preference.
Checkout pg. 30 of the BMS manual located in the docs/Falcon BMS manuals folder in your BMS installation. That’s how the real thing functions. The CH fighterstick and throttle are very close in their setup to the real thing, so it should be self explanatory. Set them up as close to that as you can.
As for ramp starting….Don’t worry about it for now. You don’t HAVE to rampstart ever, simply hit taxi or takeoff option and get used to FLYING the jet. Then, once you get more comfortable with what all the functions of the various switches are used for, rampstart will become second nature. Its far better that way, otherwise like in your case, you are simply memorizing a procedure or checklist without actually knowing what it is you are accomplishing, and that’s neither fun nor productive.
Remember, RL F-16 trainee’s are already accomplished jet pilots when they enter the viper pit for the first time, whereas most of us including myself are not. Therefore they are already familiar with most of the basic terminology and functions that translate to any airframe. They don’t just put Joe pilot into the cockpit and and teach him to rampstart an F-16 right off the bat. This is why I suggest flying and familiarizing yourself with the aircraft first, before being concerned with all the finer details like full rampstart procedure and such. After all, this is a sim and should be fun, you can’t die, and you don’t need to beat your head against the wall to have fun flying it