F-14 flight model
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Updated link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ebya28y7qvrhb1x/cockpitsv1.2.rar includes a bit more aircraft with better cockpits than the ones they have by default.
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Updated link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ebya28y7qvrhb1x/cockpitsv1.2.rar includes a bit more aircraft with better cockpits than the ones they have by default.
Cockpits…? In 300 kb…?
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Not custom ones, replaces the bad ones with the default F16s
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Awesome, thanks Owsen.
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I edited out the AFM (not the whole thing, just the data i could find in the table) based on some NASA simulator tables i found and it does fly very differently then with the stock AFM, however the center line storage problem persists. As soon as i finish the works on the BFM for the B/D (and that may take some time if all goes well) i’ll try to teach myself how to mod the hard points as well. It’s not just that they are not aligned properly at the moment, but some interesting loads are currently unavailable (like the 2 Phoenix, 1 Sparrow on the center line, 2 Sparrows on stations 2 and 7, 2 Sidewinders on stations 1 and 8).
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This might seam a bit of an odd one…… but when flying in furball mode, does the sim use different FM files then when flying in career or tactical missions?
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This might seam a bit of an odd one…… but when flying in furball mode, does the sim use different FM files then when flying in career or tactical missions?
Very unlikely unless some bad strings (linking).
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I flew some high altitude climb profiles as mentioned by one of the guys that flew my WIP FM’s and i got some very different results when flying my test missions (in the tactical menu) as opposed to flying in furball. Namely when in some supersonic climbs i reach past angels 60 i can continue to accelerate even when level and then in shallow dives i exceed IMN 2.7 and even 3.11 by angels 35 at which point the plane just goes bonkers. When i fly the same climb profile in my premade missions this never happens though. The plane never exceeds IMN 2.41-42 even when clean and with only about 1000lbs of fuel to go. This really got me puzzled
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Guys,
Where can I get this to try out?
Cheers
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For anyone who’d like to discuss the F-14FM work in progress available with the B pit atm or any other issues revolving around the aerodynamic capability of Grumman’s masterpiece.
Maybe the mods could move this thread to the ‘Community Mods’ section…
Thanks, Baby.
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Does anyone have a link to EM charts for the f14B?
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Not that i know of. I made some extensive changes to the current FM’s based on the F-14A (keeping the same lift to drag and thrust per mach, but but adjusting for the CLmax) and overwriting the same values on the B/D FM values, thus trying to work around the lack of first hand data. The results are….well interesting. Not a dramatic change of the overall performance, but you could land that sucker down a carrier deck at 130-150 knots. The real deal was adjusting the NASA tables in the AFM files. I could either replace the current values with the original simulation made for the F-14A, or “guess” the blanks. As a result the bird can now rudder roll and enter flat spins as well. I could not adjust the ptichup momentum though. So the bird is far from perfect.
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PM for assistance with the “blanks”.
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Could you provide the EM charts of your adjusted CL/CD/thrust ?
Did you work from real EM charts ? Describe your method of work plz.
JP
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I started with the F-14A charts. I computed the CLmax curve first and adjusted it accordingly. Engine thrust per mach and altitude seamed like a more risky alternative to change as reliable data are harder to find so i decided to keep the current values. Then i proceeded to calculate the drag tables in order to match EM charts. I then took the new CL/CD values and substituted them in the F-14B flight model. Thus the aerodynamic component of the model should be ok, it’s the thrust values that always make me feel uneasy. I once payed with them, but the result was not good. So i decided to change them only if the FM needs some “fine tuning”, but for that i’d need an F-14B/D EM chart and those are hard to find (if they even exist)
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an F-14B/D EM chart and those are hard to find (if they even exist)
They surely exist, but not online
There might be a few NASA articles on F-14 engines, I’ll have a look.
EDIT : for the F-110-GE-400 engines of F-14B, you can use the chart of an F-16 with F-110-GE-100 engines, you wont be far off. Air intakes and nozzle differ, but I cant find something specific to the F-14.
As for the TF30, check this out :
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/9780470117859.app4/pdf -
They do exist…sounds good
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Very nice Tomcat right here, I have it and its gorgeous and weaponable as its Tacpack enabled. Can also do CV ops and FSX@War i s coming shortly, I know: I am beta testing it.
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As am I, and it has holes intrinsic in FSX that should be especially apparent in the A model. And that’s not mentioning the holes in what TacPack is supposed to be.
Aerosoft needs to permit the migration of this to another engine so it can live up to the blood, sweat, and tears by that team.