Tom's Cat
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Good day !
I’ve been trying to dig thru this thread, but its crazy long and gets derailed quite often. Id just like to know if there is a cockpit avalbile for the 14A (or B?) Ive seen pictures of it floating around but never a source.
Thanks!
EDIT: While I was browsing google, I did come across this vid (
) by *********************. Anyone here tried it? -
Good day !
I’ve been trying to dig thru this thread, but its crazy long and gets derailed quite often. Id just like to know if there is a cockpit avalbile for the 14A (or B?) Ive seen pictures of it floating around but never a source.
Thanks!
EDIT: While I was browsing google, I did come across this vid (
) by *********************. Anyone here tried it?Please Check post #1136 in this thread, you’ll also find an overview of the ‘clutter’.
There is no dedicated F-14A pit in development at the moment. There is a B and a D pit, both out but unfinished.
There’ll be an update on the status of both pits shortly.
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Stingray, will your first page F-14 skin collection remain compatible with future releases of any updated F-14 models?
One more refrence question, which F-14 models were equipped with the glove vane as pictured below:
Does he glove vane appear in any of the BMS models?
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The skins are not compatible as the old model has about the number of polygons in total that one wing has on the new one.
Brightside is much of my original artwork and recreations can be applied almost one to one so once the main texture set and weathering is complete pumping out the skins will be relatively easy.
Glove Vanes:
All F-14s except the D were built with glove vanes. They were later disabled and/or removed from the glovebox. Officially due to high complexity and maintenance cost (read man hours), unofficially because it is said that no one on the US side (Navy, Grumman, VX squads) ever got them to work properly.
The system was supposed to generate additional lift ahead of the center of gravity to relieve the nose heavy characteristic at supersonic speeds. They could be extended manually by the pilot with wings swept back full or the FCS automatically engaged them at above Mach 1 and later above Mach 1.4.
Rumor has it that the Iranians have figured out proper deployment procedure for these vanes throughout the envelope and have been using them on Tomcat since during the Iran/Iraq conflict. As no other fighter platform has had more air-to-air engagements in modern history than the Iranian Tomcat it could well be that this experience enabled them to finally get the system to work right. Who knows.
I did see glove vanes extent on F-14As in FF and I do believe also in BMS (same model so who knows). Given the complexity the AFM already poses I would redirect the question of implementation feasibility in terms of F-14A flight model and performance to the FM gurus (Topolo, Mike Metcalf, et al).
Stingray, will your first page F-14 skin collection remain compatible with future releases of any updated F-14 models?
One more refrence question, which F-14 models were equipped with the glove vane as pictured below:
Does he glove vane appear in any of the BMS models?
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Unbelievable! Thanks for sharing man.
The reason the F-14A+ was renamed F-14B was because the database used for supply and maintenance couldn’t handle the “+” to differentiate F-14A and F-14A+. Funny thing is, 10 years later, F/A-18As were upgraded to C equivalency as the F/A-18A+ and later the F/A-18A++(has APG-73 radar). Incredibly silly, lesson was never learned.
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I hereby explicitly state that I do not wish to distribute any of the models in question (pit or external) and I do not represent Nizmo or EBS in any sort or affiliation.
Raise your right hand and said “I swear”.
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Raise your right hand and said “I swear”.
After all the shit that went down here you seriously expect me to do a 180 and suddenly post material here that almost lead to the deletion of thousands of valuable posts regarding F-14 development/information?!
I know you have to adhere to your despotic moderating style but there is no need to ride a dead horse over and over again. Before I even begin to talk about a pit or model related to the F-14 rest assured I’ll triple check my move with you before I make it.
BMS isn’t the first and won’t be the last dev group around this leaked flight sim in our lifetimes Dee-Jay
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despotic moderating
Guilty. And I take the responsability of this, no problem … (it could be worse you know.)
We are giving the conditions for posting here (what is made outside of og this forum is not our concerne ;)) … then we are just trying to stay straight in our shoes. Just don’t do the same mistakes than Nizmo or Cemil, this is the only thing we are asking.
For the rest, I have the faith in you as you never disapointed anyone here, as long as you stay honest (which is the most important IMO, ATM, I have not reasons at all to think otherwise) we will support you to the end.Take care and good luck in your project.
Many ppl here loves the F-14.
BMS isn’t the first and won’t be the last dev group around this leaked flight sim in our lifetimes Dee-Jay
Fortunately … because BMS can die anytime. Who really knows.
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I just threw that in cuz I saw it in your sig :D.
Your comment is appreciated! Thanks.
Just don’t do the same mistakes than Nizmo or Cemil, this is the only thing we are asking.
For the rest, I have the faith in you as you never disapointed anyone here, as long as you stay honest (which is the most important IMO, ATM, I have not reasons at all to think otherwise) we will support you. -
I just threw that in cuz I saw it in your sig :D.
Yeah right! I forgot about this one actualy. (… in the moderation team I assume the role of the bad guy, you know, like in movies, there is always the good cop and the bad cop (Mike Lowrey and Marcus Burnett, Riggs and Roger, Tom & Jerry … etc … )
Whatever …
Make place for the Cat …
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personnaly Dj, i believe that in the mod team, you’re the kindest guy
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@Red:
personnaly Dj, i believe that in the mod team, you’re the kindest guy
WAT’A’F!!! SHHHHHHHHT! DO NOT SAY THIS!!! :shock:
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Stingray, good information about the glove vane. Is it possible for the F-14 team to create/verify operational glove vanes in the BMS F-14A model? I am going to assume the amount of modelling effort needed to creating such feature from scratch would be great and given the list of do items for teh F-14 team, most likely it would be low priority. The reason I ask for glove vane animation is that seeing such features would be a very realistic feature on Iranian Air Force F-14s in a future Iran/Iran theatre such as Malc’s upcoming 64 seg Middle East Theatre. Imagine that, a theatre where F-14 vs F-14 combat could occour. Of course I would help with creating such campaigns, only after I clear my considerably full plate of projects.:D
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Whatever …
Make place for the Cat …
Scary observation skill: That picture shows F-14D BuNo 164603 ‘AJ-101’ VF-31 Tomcatters also called ‘The pencil’ around 2005/2006 and no I haven’t read the URL.
:eek:
What a beauty!
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Stingray, good information about the glove vane. Is it possible for the F-14 team to create/verify operational glove vanes in the BMS F-14A model? I am going to assume the amount of modelling effort needed to creating such feature from scratch would be great and given the list of do items for teh F-14 team, most likely it would be low priority. The reason I ask for glove vane animation is that seeing such features would be a very realistic feature on Iranian Air Force F-14s in a future Iran/Iran theatre such as Malc’s upcoming 64 seg Middle East Theatre. Imagine that, a theatre where F-14 vs F-14 combat could occour. Of course I would help with creating such campaigns, only after I clear my considerably full plate of projects.:D
I’ll check tonight but I’m pretty sure they’re already there.
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I’ll check tonight.
Do you swear that you’ll check…? Can you give your word in blood and sacrifice your first-born upon the altar of an obsolete piece of software…?
Well - DO YOU…?! CAN YOU…???
Or not.
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… taking a deeeeep breath, and
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