HTS SOI
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sorry if I’m beating a (half) dead horse, but I couldn’t find any reliable info by using search…
Yesterday I tried to equip a HTS on my SEAD mission (latest ITO theatre) but could not manage to switch the HAD to SOI and slew the cursor or lock on targets. So in earlier versions this seems to be the case when you have no actual HARM missile equipped - is this still the case?
Mr. Super Video Instructor KRAUSE even shows this in one of his videos, but can’t seem to get it working. Does it only work in Korea maybe? -
Arf … in theory, HTS is for US F-16 only. No foreign nation has it.
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Arf … in theory, HTS is for US F-16 only. No foreign nation has it.
so i gotta try this in the korea theatre, right?
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Yesterday I tried to equip a HTS on my SEAD mission
What do you mean you “tried”? Did you load it on the munitions screen and was it on the jet in the 3d world?
Did you also power it on once in the jet?
How are you trying to make the MFD the SOI? DMS Down? The HTS page could be in either the left or (usually) right MFD.
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What do you mean you “tried”? Did you load it on the munitions screen and was it on the jet in the 3d world?
Did you also power it on once in the jet?
How are you trying to make the MFD the SOI? DMS Down? The HTS page could be in either the left or (usually) right MFD.
sorry if unclear. i succeeded equipping it, i meant i tried using it by equipping it
i had the HAD on my 2nd MFD and it was showing targets. I tried DMS down in AG mode several times to switch to the HAD (2nd MFD) but it didn’t work - SOI stayed on the FCR. I assume it was powered on, because I could see radar contacts and I started on runway - master arm was also on if that has any significance…thx for your help!
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- Did you have Harm missile onboard?
- Were your Harm switched on?
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no HARMs mean u cant actually use it as a SOI - it is still useful for seeing when that SA10/Patriot switches from search to tracking mode and for figuring out the approximate position of the AD threats out there.
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I’m not 100% sure but I think you must have HARM missile as selected weapon in order to have SOI on the HAD. Note that I say selected weapon, not necessarily that you need to have an actual weapon on the wings… here if I select HARM missile, even if quantity is 0, I can still select the HAD as SOI, mark targets with it etc.
And yes, as I thought, this should be fixed in 3-4 weeks.
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And yes, as I thought, this should be fixed in 3-4 weeks.
By this, I really hope you mean that we can select weapons which are not loaded on the wings in 4.33, just like the real SMS
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By this, I really hope you mean that we can select weapons which are not loaded on the wings in 4.33, just like the real SMS
No. But, how did you get to that conclusion anyway?
And yes while this is a fancy feature, I see really small use to it in a simulator. Not saying that it’s not important, but priorities, you know…
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I’m not 100% sure but I think you must have HARM missile as selected weapon in order to have SOI on the HAD. Note that I say selected weapon, not necessarily that you need to have an actual weapon on the wings… here if I select HARM missile, even if quantity is 0, I can still select the HAD as SOI, mark targets with it etc.
And yes, as I thought, this should be fixed in 3-4 weeks.
You’re not talking about BMS right? So in reality it would work, but in the sim it does not, because I did not carry HARM on the stores (from the beginning).
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No I was talking about BMS, currently that’s how it works, you must have HARM missiles as current weapon (even with 0 quantity) in order to make HAD SOI. This is wrong behavior (i.e in RL the pod is independent of weapon type or FCC mode) and will be fixed in a later version.
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No I was talking about BMS, currently that’s how it works, you must have HARM missiles as current weapon (even with 0 quantity) in order to make HAD SOI. This is wrong behavior (i.e in RL the pod is independent of weapon type or FCC mode) and will be fixed in a later version.
but how can i select AG to HARM if no HARM missile is in the loadout? because in ITO there are no HARMs available…
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but how can i select AG to HARM if no HARM missile is in the loadout? because in ITO there are no HARMs available…
In current BMS, you can’t.
HAD works with AGM-45 too …. which is in ITO I think.
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No. But, how did you get to that conclusion anyway?
And yes while this is a fancy feature, I see really small use to it in a simulator. Not saying that it’s not important, but priorities, you know…
I think you must have HARM missile as selected weapon in order to have SOI on the HAD. Note that I say selected weapon, not necessarily that you need to have an actual weapon on the wings… here if I select HARM missile, even if quantity is 0, I can still select the HAD as SOI, mark targets with it etc.
And yes, as I thought, this should be fixed in 3-4 weeks.
Pretty sure you cannot select things which are not loaded in the current version?
Would be nice though…. Having to set the loadout on the DTC and check during ramp start…
No I was talking about BMS, currently that’s how it works, you must have HARM missiles as current weapon (even with 0 quantity) in order to make HAD SOI. This is wrong behavior (i.e in RL the pod is independent of weapon type or FCC mode) and will be fixed in a later version.
Right, that makes a bit more sense, and I guess its a much easier fix than rewriting the code the SMS uses (and in turn I guess a lot of the weapon avionics).
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Pretty sure you cannot select things which are not loaded in the current version?
Would be nice though…. Having to set the loadout on the DTC and check during ramp start…
Right, that makes a bit more sense, and I guess its a much easier fix than rewriting the code the SMS uses (and in turn I guess a lot of the weapon avionics).
Not sure how you took it there
I meant from the beginning that the current behavior is that you must have HARM weapon type selected, meaning that you have HARM missiles or had ones that were fired or jetissoned, by no means I mean that the SMS stuff is or will be implemented.
And FWIW, implementing full working SMS isn’t easy but not impossible either, I may go there someday, but not in the close future as it’s IMHO low priority.
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And FWIW, implementing full working SMS isn’t easy but not impossible either, I may go there someday, but not in the close future as it’s IMHO low priority.
What is high priority right now, if I may be so bold to ask?
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What is high priority right now, if I may be so bold to ask?
I guess you’ll know in 3-4 weeks…
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