Maverick PRE
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This is all stuff Id love to see in BMS one day…
Watch out what you are asking for :mrgreen:
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I-Hawk wrote about what it does, not where it’s located.
The AGM-65 mounting procedure induces an unknown amount of misalignment. This misalignment must be removed to improve accuracy and shorten the time required to achieve a hand-off. Misalignment is corrected by boresighting the missile LOS to the SOI LOS. The AGM-65 boresight procedure may only be performed on the ground if the missiles do not have dome covers and squibs installed. If the dome covers are present, the procedure must be done while airborne.
What you are actually doing is boresighting the rack or station as you only have to boresight a station once, even if there are 2 or 3 AGM-65Ds on there in the case of the LAU-88A/A.
Further to what I-Hawk wrote you don’t have to boresight using the TGP as SOI for PRE submode, you can also use the FCR as SOI for PRE submode or the HUD as SOI for VIS submode.
Well, I thought it sounded vaguely familiar, I actually tried to see if the BSGT mode was in BMS some time ago. I think I can recall getting it displayed on the HUD too, but it not doing anything. If my computer was set up at the moment Id have a look at it now, but Im in the middle of a move so the Cougar is packed away…
@I-Hawk, you won’t hear me complain about adding more realistic procedures to BMS… wanna simulate needing to have correct GPS keys loaded? Im cool with that. Wanna require a 781 be digitally filled out before the next flight? Sounds great!
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All,
I’m trying to figure out what the process is for using a maverick in pre-mode. I’ve watched several tutorial videos (including Krause) and it didn’t really explain the details of how the systems work together.
If I have a steerpoint selected that’s a PPT (e.g. stpt 56), will the maverick seeker automatically lock to that steerpoint? Or do I need to use the FCR first to lock?
Smaller question: When using the FCR in ground mode, after slewing about a bit how do I reset it back to my current steerpoint?
Thanks!
strtokI made this video for my friend and I hope it will help you. Video does not have Russian audio, just off-line “Combat Employment” )))
Video is example of using FCR + TGP + AGM-65(PRE mode) to search (by FCR), identify (by TGP) and destroy (AGM-65, GBU-12) moving target (SCUD battalion): -
I never knew the TGP would slave to the WPN LOS. That’s very handy.
One habit I do is to uncage both stations of Mavericks if I hope to get two off per run. It’s one less thing to do during the critical phase of the attack. It’s also a good reminder that it’s time to come off and ready for the next run when I see black video.
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In RL, 2 AGM-65’s can be locked onto different targets before launch
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airwar, did you have problems with the range to the stpt on minute 20?
I know this pretty well - you arrive, and just when you want to select your target for attack, you can’t reach them anymore, need to first switch SnowPlow on, fix, move cursor, fix again, switch to WPN, move cursor, fix - and meanwhile you just passed over there head -
airwar, did you have problems with the range to the stpt on minute 20?
I know this pretty well - you arrive, and just when you want to select your target for attack, you can’t reach them anymore, need to first switch SnowPlow on, fix, move cursor, fix again, switch to WPN, move cursor, fix - and meanwhile you just passed over there headYES!!! That was problem! I solved the problem by easy way - changing FCR (GMT) range from 10> to <20> and I was able to move “cursor” over the target again. I don`t know, this is bug or my mistake )))
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hi, is there a way to hit moving targets with maverick? and one another question when ever i locked in target with selecting steerpoint in pre mode i cant seem to unlock back with HOTAS TMS down it is driving me crazy, i tried everything change steerpoint, cahnge radar mode, reselect FDR pls help
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In PRE you have the FCR left, WPN right. You lock (FTT) a GM/GMT/SEA target. SOI switches to WPN page. You can then slew/lock the Maverick and fire. It should absolutely hit any moving ground target.
Change SOI back to FCR by either TMS aft from WPN SOI or DMS down before you try to unlock the radar.
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hi, is there a way to hit moving targets with maverick? and one another question when ever i locked in target with selecting steerpoint in pre mode i cant seem to unlock back with HOTAS TMS down it is driving me crazy, i tried everything change steerpoint, cahnge radar mode, reselect FDR pls help
Hi! What is your joystick? I had the same problem with X52Pro. The problem was the assignment of commands for joystick in BMS using default file “BMS” for HOTAS Joystick. To assign commands for X52Pro I used file “keystroke”. Small Tip - It is best to use for joystick buttons direct commands without Shift, Alt, Ctrl operators, especially for TMS and DMS long/short functions!!!
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Most people that have “dumb” Mavericks are because they are firing when the Maverick is pointed the correct direction but hasn’t established a track within the missile itself. This is a reasonable problem because real Mavericks won’t fire without a track. There would be no chance to hit. Not so with BMS, you can dumb fire them and much wailing and gnashing of teeth comes after.
The key to the whole thing is to verify the track with the flashing (or not) bore cross on the WPN format. Flashing is not locked. Solid is locked. It is a small plus sign that wanders around the display showing the relative look direction of the missile seeker compared with straight ahead. You FCR lock the target in PRE, SOI switches to WPN, missile pointed at the target. Time to shoot? No! Verify the track and a solid (not flashing) bore cross.
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Hi! What is your joystick? I had the same problem with X52Pro. The problem was the assignment of commands for joystick in BMS using default file “BMS” for HOTAS Joystick. To assign commands for X52Pro I used file “keystroke”. Small Tip - It is best to use for joystick buttons direct commands without Shift, Alt, Ctrl operators, especially for TMS and DMS long/short functions!!!
i am using X52. i will try that
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Most people that have “dumb” Mavericks are because they are firing when the Maverick is pointed the correct direction but hasn’t established a track within the missile itself. This is a reasonable problem because real Mavericks won’t fire without a track. There would be no chance to hit. Not so with BMS, you can dumb fire them and much wailing and gnashing of teeth comes after.
The key to the whole thing is to verify the track with the flashing (or not) bore cross on the WPN format. Flashing is not locked. Solid is locked. It is a small plus sign that wanders around the display showing the relative look direction of the missile seeker compared with straight ahead. You FCR lock the target in PRE, SOI switches to WPN, missile pointed at the target. Time to shoot? No! Verify the track and a solid (not flashing) bore cross.
is this for moving targets? could you kindly simplify your answer
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because real Mavericks won’t fire without a track. There would be no chance to hit. Not so with BMS…
FYI Mavericks are always hot. You pickle and a missile will be launched.
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You can tip the cursor in any direction to see if it moves or not. If it moves, it isn’t locked. When locked, the cursor won’t move.
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You can tip the cursor in any direction to see if it moves or not. If it moves, it isn’t locked. When locked, the cursor won’t move.
i think it locks with TMS up but mine is not working due to settings with Saitek X52 i will change and try. as far as i remember from older versions it was tracking target. thanks for the reply
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I had to write an X52 macro to make it work.
For example if you do want to map CTRL + UP, I had to program the keypress like
press routine:
Press (CTRL) delay (0.02s) press (UP)while pressed:
-nothing-release routine:
release (up) delay (0.02s) release (CTRL)It’s the same way with TMS, DMS, CMS. This way, also TMS/DMS/CMS/Comm switch long/short press will work.
TMS up long will not work when using a simple keypress in the saitek software because it will repeat the keypress instead of holding that key (try in the test menu).It took me about a week to figure that out
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I had to write an X52 macro to make it work.
For example if you do want to map CTRL + UP, I had to program the keypress like
press routine:
Press (CTRL) delay (0.02s) press (UP)while pressed:
-nothing-release routine:
release (up) delay (0.02s) release (CTRL)It’s the same way with TMS, DMS, CMS. This way, also TMS/DMS/CMS/Comm switch long/short press will work.
TMS up long will not work when using a simple keypress in the saitek software because it will repeat the keypress instead of holding that key (try in the test menu).It took me about a week to figure that out
Thanks a lot. at least i have found someone facing same problem with me. i think this problem should be consider in new version release. i dont face this problem when flying with DCS A-10 Warthog
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Why not simply assign DX buttons and be done with it?
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Why not simply assign DX buttons and be done with it?
well actually that’s another thought i wanted to try but i am using 3 modes also with clutch which might mess things up