Tom's Cat
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Why me?;) It is really inconceivable to me.On bms are very simple and not restrictive rules.
And adult people are unable to understand them,How is it possible
Banita,
Wasnāt addressing you personally, itās a figure of speech meaning āI canāt believe itā.
Simple and unrestrictive rules would not result in the deletion of an entire thread on a forum because of the (alleged) actions of one member.
Iāve always done my own work and never copied or infringed anything and even I am threatened with being banned now cuz of a figure of speech. Seems a bit Orwellian no? Itās a huge kick in the balls to me and anyone who has participated in this thread cuz we done nothing wrong. If you can be banned based on the mood of a mod what is the point?
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@Red:
want another one closed and another user banned? go on
Itās a figure of speech meaning āI canāt believe itā.
Iām sure you know what youāre doing and Iām absolutely sure thereās nothing fishy in my work that deserves to get me banned by you.
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I know what it means
Iām absolutely sure thereās nothing fishy in my work that deserves to get me banned by you.
Nobody ever said you donāt do your own work. Nobody ever said the mood of a mod will get you banned.
the simple fact that you feel like being kicked in the balls with a fair warning proves you donāt know the rules very well.Calling any mod decision will get you banned for a while - which is something you were on the edge of doing, hence the warning
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@Red:
I know what it means
Nobody ever said you donāt do youāre own work. nobody ever said the mood of a mod will get you banned
but calling any mod decision will - which is something you were on the edge of doing.Fair enough:)
Thanks for clarifying, I actually didnāt know about that specific rule.
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No worries mate
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The thread will re opened soon ā¦ or will be merged to this one or the other F-14 dev thread.
Just standby. ( we also have families and RL jobs. )
EDITED:
Old thread has been merged.
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Soā¦the F-14B pit is no more? Please say that isnāt so. That thing looked too good.
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Iād say that depends on the policy of BMS and if Nizmo can verify the F-14 is completely his own work. This is very sad as this project has been a year in coming. If it doesnāt materialize, the good part is weāve had a great AFM tested this year, a better AIM-54 modeled, an F-14D cockpit, and weāve solved the problem with the constant role. The F-14 model in game needs updating and the model Nizmo was showing was beautiful. He just needs to come clean with the Mods about his work.
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Nizmo can verify the F-14 is completely his own work
**Nizmo stated that the F-14 was actually from FlightGear.
But the reason why Nizmo has been baned is not because of the F-14.
In any case, from now, Nizmo and anything coming from him is ānon grataā on BMS boards, because trust has vanished forever and we will not loose any single more second to examine or try to verify IF, or IF NOT, Nizmo materials are from him or ported from other software, or coming from a 3rd party 3D model website.
Now please, move forward ā¦ stop talking about him, and try to avoid this thread to be locked.
Thank you for understandings.**
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For the time being, can somebody merge the F-16 pit with the F-14 views so that we have a more functional pit? Also, can somebody repost the fix that was here a short time ago which allowed the F-14 to fire weapons without causing roll issues as an after effect?
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Canāt find the fix but it has to do with using tacedit and looking at the hardpoint data- one hardpoint had an erroneous entry that should be 0 IIRC.
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well did Nizmo had the chance to defend his case? Iām sure he did but my impression is that things happened a bit tooo quick.
As I saw the thread he was banned without having the opportunity to state his case in public.
Sure looks alike that model but what if he took the model and took screens and then based on those he build his model, or if he contacted the creator and gave him permission?
He knew the whole process and how touchy BMS guys are on it I donāt think he would do such thing.
We all know that a good artist - modeler can do miraclesā¦ and then there is a thin line to distinguish which is which and who made the chickenā¦ was the egg first or the chicken?
Not to go farther general on the copy subject in which my case ends that everything in BMS is copy paste or creations that no license to use or reproduce exists.
Why I say this?
Cause then the general line to modelers should be: donāt make them good cause there are good models out there and we will accuse u as using existing work.
Or please video record every second as u develop the model and give us the video to be sure u made the model.
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Arty
Would you please cut us some slack. Donāt you think we had long discussion about this with the different parties involved ?
All we ask is that when you offer something for distribution you are honest and transparent.
if you arenāt, you go offer your work someplaceās else -
I do cut much slack. I just said things with Nizmo went way too quick IMO.
Did Nizmo had his chance to prove honesty and transparencyā¦???
As I wrote looks obvious that the models are the same.But he is here for long and he participated in threads where we were talking about such matters of:
"All we ask is that when you offer something for distribution you are honest and transparent.
if you arenāt, you go offer your work someplaceās else "So I donāt think he would go for it.
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Let me please clarify a last time:
well did Nizmo had the chance to defend his case? Iām sure he did but my impression is that things happened a bit tooo quick.
He had PLENTY of opportunities to defend himself ā¦ and he actually used (or even abused) of those opportunities, but in a bad way by lying to us and playing a poker game (many times!)
So now we chooses to stop.And when we are saying STOP, it applies also to the related discussion, whatever the reasons, as guests, you have to comply.
If you want to discuss the fairness of moderatorās choice, you will have to do it somewhere else (On his website is a good idea).If you canāt refrain yourself ā¦ unlike Red Dog, I will have no remorse to lock/close this thread or even give some Xmas holidays. I accept the responsibility to be the bad guy here, and I will assume this role through the end.
No prob.
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Ok sorry as I said Iām sure he had.
Those past months I donāt have much time and I donāt read the forum so often.
Bad thing though looked nice work.
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Nizmo is only copy/paste artist.mig cockpit copy/paste.tomcat copy/paste.tank copy/paste for what this discussion?
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Canāt find the fix but it has to do with using tacedit and looking at the hardpoint data- one hardpoint had an erroneous entry that should be 0 IIRC.
Also, I forgot to add to my earlier question, when the F-14 accelerates beyond the 250 knots, the RDC SPD message is posted on the HUD. Did any of you guys find a fix for that issue?
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Ive been using this, default F-16 pit with F-14 wing model, made by Owsen. Its nice having a fully functional FCR MFD with which to rain phoenixes down on bears and blackjacks.
https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/showthread.php?18816-F-14-flight-model/page2
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Guys,
after this thread has been merged and moved to the general ācommunity modā section some comments below.
**My original thread āTomās Catā runs on until page 38 post #374. Deals with skins mostly, some FM discussion.
Nizmoās thread āF-14B pit/modelā starts on page 38 post #375. Deals with model and pit, heavy pit and FM discussion.
Current thread starts at page 112 post #1113.**
I will modify the first page of this thread with the currently available info as regards the F-14 flight model, B and D pits, external model and texture work.
I will open a new thread in the skins section for my texture work on the old and new model.
The āroll fixā has already been taken care of by Mike Metcalf, weāre in close coordination and will post a download link for the AFM as soon as possible (incl the fix).
I will continue working on the external model and post updates in the skin thread.
I hereby explicitly state that I do not wish to distribute any of the models in question (pit or external) and I do not represent Nizmo or EBS in any sort or affiliation.
Also you will understand that I will not comment on the rights issues of the respective models - F-14 or otherwise.
I been actively working to bring more realistic carrier ops to falcon (be it FF, BMS or what will follow in the future) in any form or shape and am positive that we will get there eventually WITH a fully functional Tomcat.
Iāll pm/email all involved to get the diff parts coordinated and will post an update asap.
For now, give me a couple of days to get this together. Please post any and all comments and questions here, Iāll get back to you here or via pm.
Rest assured this thread and me (:)) are here to stay.
Anytime, Baby.