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    • Earlybite
      Earlybite last edited by

      Hi,

      I’m a little unsettled because of

      a) the different (identical) key files in C:\Falcon BMS 4.33\Docs\Key Files & Input

      b) e.g. the TRIM keys
      There is e.g.
      SimTrimRollLeft 309 0 0x43 5 0 0 1 “TRIM: ROLL TRIM Wheel - L WING DN”

      But isn’t 309 already a button on a HOTAS?
      Do I need to set this to -1?

      My old entry is

      As Key

      AFAileronTrimLeft -1 0 0XCB 4 0 0 1 “Trim-Aileron Left”

      For my Coolie Hat

      AFElevatorTrimUp 0 -1 -3 0 0x0 0

      TIA for any help
      Earlybite

      EDIT:
      Or do I need the ‘BMS-Minimum.key’ file?
      Are the differences between this file and Full.key, and Blank.Key, etc.?

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      • Stubbies2003
        Stubbies2003 last edited by

        The first number you are referencing is not a key command but the sound the button makes when actuated.

        The 0x43 5 is the two bits in question for what key and what modifiers, if any, are in use.

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        • Agave_Blue
          Agave_Blue @Stubbies2003 last edited by

          One difference in trim commands is (or was) the difference between HOTAS commands and ‘pit’ commands …. the actual trim nobs. At one point I’d read that in the 4.32 commands those had separate purpose with regard to trim, i.e. where/how it was used.

          I have not inspected the trim commands in the new keyfile(s), but that may be some of what you’re seeing.

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          • Earlybite
            Earlybite @Stubbies2003 last edited by

            @Stubbies2003:

            The first number you are referencing is not a key command but the sound the button makes when actuated.

            The 0x43 5 is the two bits in question for what key and what modifiers, if any, are in use.

            Ok, ok,ok, I thrown something together… Thanks!

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            • Earlybite
              Earlybite @Agave_Blue last edited by

              @Agave_Blue:

              One difference in trim commands is (or was) the difference between HOTAS commands and ‘pit’ commands …. the actual trim nobs. At one point I’d read that in the 4.32 commands those had separate purpose with regard to trim, i.e. where/how it was used.

              I have not inspected the trim commands in the new keyfile(s), but that may be some of what you’re seeing.

              I was a little irritated because of the missing keystroke.key file, but it seems that this now is the BMS-Basic.key file…
              I’m still using my 4.3.2 keystroke key file (if my computer let me fly).
              What I’ already searching for is the command for the laser beam on first detent…

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              • Agave_Blue
                Agave_Blue @Earlybite last edited by

                SimTriggerFirstDetent -1 0 0x35 2 0 0 1 “STICK: FIRST TRIGGER DETENT”

                Edit:

                Docs folder, Dash 1, Page 54

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                • Earlybite
                  Earlybite @Agave_Blue last edited by

                  @Agave_Blue:

                  SimTriggerFirstDetent -1 0 0x35 2 0 0 1 “STICK: FIRST TRIGGER DETENT”

                  Edit:

                  Docs folder, Dash 1, Page 54

                  Thank you, sir.
                  Greeting
                  Earlbyite

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                  • Stubbies2003
                    Stubbies2003 @Agave_Blue last edited by

                    @Agave_Blue:

                    One difference in trim commands is (or was) the difference between HOTAS commands and ‘pit’ commands …. the actual trim nobs. At one point I’d read that in the 4.32 commands those had separate purpose with regard to trim, i.e. where/how it was used.

                    I have not inspected the trim commands in the new keyfile(s), but that may be some of what you’re seeing.

                    Interesting. Possibility of thinking like the original designers of the aircraft did. The Trim/AP disconnect switch was put in there specifically in case of a runaway trim input from the SSC or a goofed up AP. It makes sense to have separate inputs for the SSC trim and manual trim panel if looked at in this way if they were going to design that as a possible fault to be seen.

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                    • Blu3wolf
                      Blu3wolf last edited by

                      Dont think that was it. The trim inputs on the stick run motors attached to the manual trim knobs. In effect its one input rather than two.

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                      • Kolbe-49th
                        Kolbe-49th last edited by

                        @Earlybite:

                        a) the different (identical) key files in C:\Falcon BMS 4.33\Docs\Key Files & Input
                        …
                        Or do I need the ‘BMS-Minimum.key’ file?
                        [What?] Are the differences between this file and Full.key, and Blank.Key, etc.?

                        @Earlybite:

                        b) e.g. the TRIM keys
                        There is e.g.
                        SimTrimRollLeft 309 0 0x43 5 0 0 1 “TRIM: ROLL TRIM Wheel - L WING DN”

                        But isn’t 309 already a button on a HOTAS?
                        Do I need to set this to -1?

                        Answer a:
                        …\Falcon BMS 4.33\Docs\Key Files & Input\BMS Key File Manual.pdf
                        page: 6-15: 5.3…

                        Answer b:
                        …\Falcon BMS 4.33\Docs\Key Files & Input\BMS Key File Manual.pdf
                        page: 6-17: Second Part…

                        😉

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                        • Agave_Blue
                          Agave_Blue @Kolbe-49th last edited by

                          @Kolbe-49th:

                          ….
                          Answer b:
                          …\Falcon BMS 4.33\Docs\Key Files & Input\BMS Key File Manual.pdf
                          page: 6-17: Second Part…

                          😉

                          Awesome. Thanks.

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