F-4 Phantom Family ANYONE? (to 3d model builders)
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so we have one model for versions E,F,EJ,ESK,I
I agree, this is the core F-4 3D model the major F-4 variant.
with changes inside and in armament,one for A,C,D
F-4D it seems to me is literally F-4E just without gun and some wing mechanization. Just a very minor alteration of E. Any F-4 version before F-4D/E from my aspect are pointless. They are way OOTF considering any Falcon theater environment and modeling issues. Except video makers no one literally ever use neither in TE and especially in campaigns. So F-4D 3D model is very close to F-4E not a totally new just a slight modified F-4E.
again with the same changes,one for G
This also looks very similarly to F-4E so even it major still also mean a very little alteration of THE F-4 3D model, the E variant. You can call it major version but in fact just an altered F-4E, we are not talking about buliding another 3D model from scratch, most of differences are around the nose section.
(its one of a kind) one for B,J,N,S (navy ones)
Except N/S the others as just OOTF as other land based variant. “S” was quite marginal in RL as I know only a very few flew until the mid '80s and Hornet replaced the F-4 in the Navy.
and one for K,M for the english ones.
3rd major version.
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I agree, this is the core F-4 3D model the major F-4 variant.
F-4D it seems to me is literally F-4E just without gun and some wing mechanization. Just a very minor alteration of E. Any F-4 version before F-4D/E from my aspect are pointless. They are way OOTF considering any Falcon theater environment and modeling issues. Except video makers no one literally ever use neither in TE and especially in campaigns. So F-4D 3D model is very close to F-4E not a totally new just a slight modified F-4E.
This also looks very similarly to F-4E so even it major still also mean a very little alteration of THE F-4 3D model, the E variant. You can call it major version but in fact just an altered F-4E, we are not talking about buliding another 3D model from scratch, most of differences are around the nose section.
Except N/S the others as just OOTF as other land based variant. “S” was quite marginal in RL as I know only a very few flew until the mid '80s and Hornet replaced the F-4 in the Navy.
3rd major version.
Agreed you can just have 3 major 3d models and then play with them for the minor changes
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There is already too many versions of the F-4 in present DB. This is just painful.
Do not add more (at least, not in the stock DB).
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I didnt say its bad model at all, its a descent model (90% for me as it really based in FF model with minor fixes) but still its something missing…
JFYI, the F-4 models in EMF are NO WAY from FF, FF maybe embraced them into the DB (actually the source to that integration was Tony which built the ITO2 theater which included those F-4 models for the IAF, and later he became FF DB manager and so he imported those same models to the stock FF DB).
The model was produced by a guy named Thorak maybe 10-11 years ago, as I know Thorak is out of the Falcon scene since long time ago, so the F-4 models are practically abandonware…
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There is already too many versions of the F-4 in present DB. This is just painful.
Do not add more (at least, not in the stock DB).
Yeap indeed but poorly modeled
JFYI, the F-4 models in EMF are NO WAY from FF, FF maybe embraced them into the DB (actually the source to that integration was Tony which built the ITO2 theater which included those F-4 models for the IAF, and later he became FF DB manager and so he imported those same models to the stock FF DB).
The model was produced by a guy named Thorak maybe 10-11 years ago, as I know Thorak is out of the Falcon scene since long time ago, so the F-4 models are practically abandonware…
My mistake then, Sorry
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The F-4 3D models in EMF are more tha decent
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Hi Guys,
I haven’t played the EMF theater yet. Do the EMF phantoms have animated gear?
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Of course they do
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I just took a look through your photobucket for some EMF pics. You have a nice pic of the F-4 on takeoff with the landing gear transitioning. That does look like a pretty good model. It doesn’t happen to have a custom cockpit does it?
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Hey buddy
No EMF does only feature external 3d models that are new to BMS. No custom cockpits
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@ spooky
Again i will agree but as i said in previous post they could be much better. Not only the Phantoms but many other models as well in the DB. I didn’t want to blame EMF or to say that their models suck -as you said they are descent- for me that i am trully a Phantom lover i would love to see a simmilar model as the f-16 JanHas makes (that good)! Believe me i like EMF the map is HUGE i just finished the 1st campaign (not to much free time nowadays) and im in 2nd day of the 2nd one and still waiting for the fase 2 of the project. but lets not argue and get out of the topic, if i had the knowledge and the time i would made them my self but unfortunately i don’t thats why i ask! -
There is already too many versions of the F-4 in present DB. This is just painful.
Do not add more (at least, not in the stock DB).
I agree. Personally I would like to see more F-16 versions probably from countries that have many different blocks in their roster (IAF / HAF / THK), this way you can also help theater devs to benefit from these model “slots” and not having to populate differently the db, at least in this aspect.
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I agree. Personally I would like to see more F-16 versions probably from countries that have many different blocks in their roster (IAF / HAF / THK), this way you can also help theater devs to benefit from these model “slots” and not having to populate differently the db, at least in this aspect.
DB is filled with garbage. I can list dozens of AC and gorund units which DB entire’s can be recycled. This is what I have done in my MOD.
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DB is filled with garbage. I can list dozens of AC and gorund units which DB entire’s can be recycled. This is what I have done in my MOD.
True….
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JFYI, the F-4 models in EMF are NO WAY from FF, FF maybe embraced them into the DB (actually the source to that integration was Tony which built the ITO2 theater which included those F-4 models for the IAF, and later he became FF DB manager and so he imported those same models to the stock FF DB).
The model was produced by a guy named Thorak maybe 10-11 years ago, as I know Thorak is out of the Falcon scene since long time ago, so the F-4 models are practically abandonware…
Sorry, that part is incorrect. New F-4 models came into FF way before ITO and ITO IIRC used different versions than stock FF Korean ones. I should know, I tested ITO from ca 2009 onward as part of the FF campaign and Beta team.
Edit: For FF6 though, no participation from my side as tester and I cannot speak for that one. Weather or not Tony included dedicated IAF versions imported from ITO2 into stock Korea is another thing, yet the stock Korea Phantoms came in way before ITO2 was released or announced.
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About the F-4, to my very humble opinion, BMS would need mostly need ROKAF RF-4C and F-4E and JASDF RF-4J and F-4EJ. To me, the rest is secondary.
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About the F-4, to my very humble opinion, BMS would need mostly need ROKAF RF-4C and F-4E and JASDF RF-4J and F-4EJ. To me, the rest is secondary.
Beautiful birds…
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Beautiful birds…
This one is from the 8th Tactical Squadron of Misawa Air basen now, they don’t use F-4EJ anymore!
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Sorry, that part is incorrect. New F-4 models came into FF way before ITO and ITO IIRC used different versions than stock FF Korean ones. I should know, I tested ITO from ca 2009 onward as part of the FF campaign and Beta team.
Edit: For FF6 though, no participation from my side as tester and I cannot speak for that one. Weather or not Tony included dedicated IAF versions imported from ITO2 into stock Korea is another thing, yet the stock Korea Phantoms came in way before ITO2 was released or announced.
Dude, 2009 is WAY too late… In 2009 I alteady became part of BMS, Tony integraded those into Korean DB IIRC at 2007 or so… And the source was ITO2 i.e Thorak’s model. My main point was that those F-4s are in no way FF made.