PHANTOM PHOR EVER LODS :)
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Molni i donāt knowā¦
If this 3model/LOD was used for FF I guess skins of FF can be used without any issue. I have to install FF find out thisā¦.
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It does resemble:
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FYI the LODs are not exactly the ones in FF. Tony took over and handled texmapping,correction,skinning,and shade error fixing.
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If this 3model/LOD was used for FF I guess skins of FF can be used without any issue. I have to install FF find out thisā¦.
Yes, I have FF6 on my harddrive.
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Yes, I have FF6 on my harddrive.
Pls. upload the skins, it would be easier to me not resinstall both Falcon. Thx.
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Standby, I will make a packageā¦ā¦
LINK REMOVED - PLEASE DO NOT POST FF SKINS FOR THESE MODELS!!
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Gents, any possibility to we have a 3D model of F-4E that can be used with the default Korean dat file?
If you know anyone please advise, Thanks.
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Nikos i hope some of the more experienced 3d modelers can help with that. As i said im not that expierenced.
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Very close of being upset about this dual politics here regarding credits and copyright. These skins are FF6 material by dedicated skinners, and the models, no matter who made them, are taken from FF. I see no credit here. Pffā¦
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PS: Even if I am wrong on the models I stand to my point with skins. I do not hold anything of copyright on a in the first palce pirated sim (FF, OF, BMS) but I hold much of a constant approach. If credits are mandatory, then give credits, also for skins.
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These skins are FF6 material by dedicated skinners, and the models, no matter who made them, are taken from FF. I see no credit here. Pffā¦
Youāre saying FF created this model? Or did FF used that model?
itās far from the same.
From our information, that model was not created by a FF team member. FF might have used it but from what we know they didnāt create it.
We and the EMF team perfectly know the origin of these phantom modelsCrĆ©dits for this model was given explicitely in another topic early september for those willing to look for it, so letās be clear there is no dual politics here as CrazyTom is saying.
thatās the problem of lacking crĆ©dits. When credit is lacking, ppl believe the last who used it created it. And 10 years later itās a mess to sort out with many different opinions. only a few know the thruth.
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Hi,
I didnāt allowed to post FF skins for these models so the link was removed (if those skins arenāt FF then the link will be restored).
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Thanks I-Hawk!
Let me be more spscifically, I already granted my point on the models was wrong.
Gentlemen, Red Dog specifically:
I am not giving too much of an importance to the words credit and copyright as far as free and non profit mods and developments on sims and other gaming forums are concerned. (Personally, not out of lack of respect to modders but since I come from a forum where those credit and copyright claims have in the past redundantly spoiled a lot of the good manners and let to an intersite sh*tstorm with a bunch of ciminals even. We showed them the door and have very clear and precise rules on all these issues.)
Of course I give credit thankfully for mods I use or modify myself. That is just good manners. And so whatever mod from within FreeFalcon as example gets ripped does not bother me emotionally any way in the direction of hurt ego.
What bothers me though is someone created something at this sim and his or their work will now be freely uploaded here at BMS. And on the benchmarksims forum, moderators and contributors are very sensitive on copyright, credits etcā¦not a few modders or contributors have already been banned, often without much hesitation.
That on the other hand FF content or skins in this case can be uploaded with no one giving a flying buttercake, that bothers and annoys me. It is double standard, ignorance at best.
I donāt vote for ANYONE getting punished, simply for some decency. A simple āskins by x,y,z-thank youā is all it takes here. And only since credits on this forum are mandatory. I did not even agree to the FF policy on copyright, but I strongly agree to fairness. And yes, the models are not in question.
Thanks btw for giving me so much flying fun after I already had abandoned BMS.Respectfully
Tom
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Again thanks for considering the skins part and now carry on gentlemen.
CheersTom
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What bothers me though is someone created something at this sim and his or their work will now be freely uploaded here at BMS. And on the benchmarksims forum, moderators and contributors are very sensitive on copyright, credits etcā¦not a few modders or contributors have already been banned, often without much hesitation.
Youāre wrong. Bans have been made to ppl who clearly lied in our face and took us for fools.
They repeatedly stole content, avoided due credit and lied to us moderators before being banned. We NEVER ban without hesitation, not least communicationneither long and fastidious investigations
Iād appreciate if you could stop stating wrong facts or stuff you donāt know about.That on the other hand FF content or skins in this case can be uploaded with no one giving a flying buttercake, that bothers and annoys me.
I hawk clearly removed links from purposedly FF skins didnāt he? So again above statement is simply wrong.
Itās not because one guy says A that A is the truth. A must be investigated and that sometimes takes times. That happened as well with the previous model storiesand now carry on gentlemen
Yes please, carry on along our forum rules please. Regardless if you agree with them or not
And you donāt need to question moderator comment either.
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Red Dog, I typed the reply before I-Hawk replied and removed the links, only posted later. Also check pm and now leave it as it is please, I was not that wrong at all. Have a nice day.
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and now leave it as it is please, I was not that wrong at all
youāre still arguing Sir !!
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I want a clear answer.
In case I integrate F-4 with FFās skin into Korea '80s the MOD will be banned here?
In case I integrate F-4 without FFās skin into Korea '80s the MOD will be banned here?
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Hi Molni,
FF skins are off limits to be posted UNLESS one can get an approval from the skinās creator to post/spread freely as a BMS mod.
OK?
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Hi Molni,
FF skins are off limits to be posted UNLESS one can get an approval from the skinās creator to post/spread freely as a BMS mod.
OK?
Who made the skins? I can ask VO101_Tom but I do not like overstress him because F-4 meanst at least 3 skins even just counting '80s and USAF + Navy. F-4J/S, F-4E USAF, F-4D/E RoKAF.