Mavericks LOS question
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Boresighting Mavs on the ground (in BMS) is just a waste of time, even if you can find something you can point track.
It is so much easier and quicker to do this once you are airborne. Once you are competent you can easily boresight all stations without even deviating from your flightpath, either just after takeoff before you climb to cruising altitude, or at some point along your route if it’s more convenient to do it later.
Like so many other tasks, practise makes it easier and quicker to do.
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Boresighting Mavs on the ground (in BMS) is just a waste of time, even if you can find something you can point track.
It is so much easier and quicker to do this once you are airborne. Once you are competent you can easily boresight all stations without even deviating from your flightpath, either just after takeoff before you climb to cruising altitude, or at some point along your route if it’s more convenient to do it later.
Like so many other tasks, practise makes it easier and quicker to do.
Do the mav D’s require the laser ? I simply cannot get them boresighted on ground or inflight no matter what I do.
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The only difference in BMS as far as boresighting is concerned is that the D model has dome covers, which you need to remove with UNCAGE. Assuming you’ve done that I can’t think of any other reason why you would struggle with D’s but not with G’s.
From p165 of the TO BMS1-F16CM-34-1-1
The AGM-65 boresight procedure may only be performed on the ground if the missiles do not have dome covers installed. If dome covers are present, the procedure must be done while airborne.
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The only difference in BMS as far as boresighting is concerned is that the D model has dome covers, which you need to remove with UNCAGE. Assuming you’ve done that I can’t think of any other reason why you would struggle with D’s but not with G’s.
From p165 of the TO BMS1-F16CM-34-1-1
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Me either, but the G’s boresight fine, even on the ground. I haven’t tried a single weapon tho, my failures all occur with the triple rack, and all on the same A/C. -
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Me either, but the G’s boresight fine, even on the ground. I haven’t tried a single weapon tho, my failures all occur with the triple rack, and all on the same A/C.Which kind of object do you “point” with TGP on the ground when boresighting ?
In my case I can only get “area” which seems not to be enough for completing boresight.- -
One difference between D and G is G is capable of “AREA” targeting. Make sure you’re not in area tracking mode before attempting to boresight for the most reliable results.
I don’t know if the Ds always have dome covers but they should in cases where they are mounted more than one per rack which of course with the G is impossible. It may even be done if more than one rack is on a single side of the airplane (e.g. 3 & 4) but that’s an unusual configuration.
It’s possible to boresight the missile against any SPI, even the VIS box. Point track is just the most precise.
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One difference between D and G is G is capable of “AREA” targeting. Make sure you’re not in area tracking mode before attempting to boresight for the most reliable results.
I don’t know if the Ds always have dome covers but they should in cases where they are mounted more than one per rack which of course with the G is impossible. It may even be done if more than one rack is on a single side of the airplane (e.g. 3 & 4) but that’s an unusual configuration.
It’s possible to boresight the missile against any SPI, even the VIS box. Point track is just the most precise.
Ahhhh, now it makes sense. After MANY nights of trying I finally got D’s boresighted as per the training mission on a CLEAR day, but the overcast training (as well my campaigns) are all inclement weather making point track boresighting extremely difficult in the air.
Just a procedure question- after the D’s are boresighted and repowered for attack, do the dome covers need to be manually removed before designating with the TGP ?
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Ahhhh, now it makes sense. After MANY nights of trying I finally got D’s boresighted as per the training mission on a CLEAR day, but the overcast training (as well my campaigns) are all inclement weather making point track boresighting extremely difficult in the air.
Just a procedure question- after the D’s are boresighted and repowered for attack, do the dome covers need to be manually removed before designating with the TGP ?
After they have been boresighted, you will have already removed the dome covers. To do the boresighting.
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After they have been boresighted, you will have already removed the dome covers. To do the boresighting.
Wasn’t sure if they were a part that jettisons, or an internal cover that that moves back into place when the head gets caged.
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They jettison…which is one of the reason why you pretty much never see MAV mounted on anything but single rails in RL. If you want to operate like reality, get used to carrying only two, and taking one shot per kill.
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…I’m still extremely skeptical about that actually working (one missile boresight used for the whole rack) in RL…REAL skeptical…
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…I’m still extremely skeptical about that actually working (one missile boresight used for the whole rack) in RL…REAL skeptical…
Don’t be skeptical We have gone through this before. Please lets not dwell on this.
On LAU-117s, boresight each launcher/missile.
On a LAU-88A/A, boresight only the priority missile on each launcher. The dome covers on other missiles must be retained for protection during priority missile
launch. The memory boresight feature provides a boresight reference for all missiles on the launcher. -
The missiles on the launcher have no misalignment for the LAU-88 then? What makes it special?
Mavericks are just in the do not fly list, anyway. Come back when they are finished being implemented.
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The missiles on the launcher have no misalignment for the LAU-88 then? What makes it special?
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Is that what I said ?
I’m sure you guys do have manuals that are 'floating" around (they should not of course). Have a read and them come defending your position with some evidence rather than guessing or assuming. -
On LAU-117s, boresight each launcher/missile.
On a LAU-88A/A, boresight only the priority missile on each launcher. The dome covers on other missiles must be retained for protection during priority missile
launch. The memory boresight feature provides a boresight reference for all missiles on the launcher.The missiles on the launcher have no misalignment for the LAU-88 then? What makes it special?
Is that what I said ?
I’m sure you guys do have manuals that are 'floating" around (they should not of course). Have a read and them come defending your position with some evidence rather than guessing or assuming.Well, it is what you said. Either there is no misalignment induced by mounting mavs to the LAU-88, and the misalignment comes only from mounting the LAU-88 to the 16S1700, or there is a misalignment induced by mounting mavs to the LAU-88, and the boresight is specific to each missile.
The former strikes me as unlikely, but Im certainly not in a position to verify it. I dont have a position to defend. But since you asked, the latter seems more likely.
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I can see it. Since the optics of the weapons are all aligned identically during manufacture boresighting a single missile on a rack of multiples gives the proper rack offset to the computer for all weapons on that mount. I’m just surprised there isn’t a pre-programmed standard offset input to the targeting computer when the weapons are loaded.
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Maddog, the mounting procedure for the maverick rack to the weapon pylon induces a variable, and thus unknown, offset. I was under the impression earlier that it was the mounting of the maverick to the rack that induced this misalignment - I have been assured the misalignment is between the rack and the pylon, meaning all missiles on the same rack share alignment.