Modelling Organisation
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Glad to know WD is in charge of model stuff.
For old lods, a LE trick to fuse multiple skins into one.
http://tactical.nekromantix.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=22524For models i can offer, all in the zip. ya know.
now some random thoughts…
- Glad to hear Pinky is working on mig23!
- A-10 model by BMS? isn’t it Sundevil’s model?
- Mig-19 ? i think Pumpyhead’s modell is very good - just need some cool air inlet/vent fairings.
- B-1… ya…so does B-52. say, for “more realistic” korea-centered DB…you need some PRC models.
- for ground vehicles…feel free to check my lod zip… hope it be of some use.
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Took the pay raise after all eh Dave…:mrgreen:
Good stuff buddy.
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Sharing CT’s in Falcon is a NoNo in Falcon,though you can from a Modeler’s view point. You WILL run into a problem when the AirTaskingManager or GroundTaskingManager……or the NavalTaskingManager run’s into it.
demer
I have identified shared parents not shared CT’s. These are what have been there for a long time, I didn’t create the sharing myself, just documenting what is there.
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Hey everybody…
Dave just to be sure… you really meant 30.000 triangles not polygons? Because we’ve been talking about polygons all the time 30.000 triangles would be 15.000 polygons!
Oh and i’ll start a WIP thread ASAP! Now i got some things sorted out at work there’s some spare time again
I’ll keep ya posted!
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30.000 triangles would be 15.000 polygons!
Not unless the polygons have 7 or 8 sides.
Looking forward to the Mig progress.
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After a period of inactivity, it would be useful if new devs could easily “grab the baton”.
Perhaps we should have a file upload area so those working on the models have permissions to checkout files and check them back in again?
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Dave just to be sure… you really meant 30.000 triangles not polygons? Because we’ve been talking about polygons all the time 30.000 triangles would be 15.000 polygons!
Yes I do mean triangles. Polygons can have many sides and vertices and as such make it difficult to define a useful value.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygon
My Tornado was around 15k triangles so 30k should deliver something very nice.
Regards
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What are the polycount limits for lower-level LODs?
Cheers,
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Usually every LOD should cut the polycount by half…round about!
Thanks for pointing that out again Dave!
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Again, for information, here are the data for the Mirage 2000-D LODs
LOD0 : 30413 triangles :
- 27579 x ptype 9 –> use as many ptype 9 triangles as possible
- 16 x ptype 13
- 160 x ptype 20
- 574 x ptype 21
- 2084 x ptype 25
LOD 1 drops to around 6000 tris at 100ft
LOD 2 : 700 tris at 500ft and you hardly notice it
LOD 3 : 70 tris at 2000ft
LOD 4 : a single pixelIf you stick to that, there shouldn’t be any problem and LOD levels will be unnoticed.
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Wavey: is there anyway you can prepare a guide for the BMS wiki (bmswiki.com) on how to import models into the game? It would greatly speed up things.
I would be more inclined to help contribute models to BMS if I knew how to see them and test them in game.
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Ok, i have started with the Mig-19, at this time i have done the fuselage. As soon i have it more complete i will open a new thread and upload some Renders
Salu2!!
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Ok, i have started with the Mig-19, at this time i have done the fuselage. As soon i have it more complete i will open a new thread and upload some Renders
Salu2!!
Thanks you, looking forward to the renders.
Regards
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What about the Red Heavys?
Tu-95, Tu-16, Tu-22, Il-74/76/78, etc…
They could need an update too, no? -
What about the Red Heavys?
Tu-95, Tu-16, Tu-22, Il-74/76/78, etc…
They could need an update too, no?IMHO except Tu-16/H-6 (which variant exactly?) and Il-76/A-50 they are not important, because they have 0 role in campaigns and anti naval warfare cannot be modedel. We do not have radar guided AG missile, ships cannot engage AS/AG missiles but we have bubble issue… Their jammer have the same effectivness as small fighers, ect.
Form my ascpet at least two (three) different MiG-21 model should get very, very high priority.
- MiG-21PF/PFM, one wing HP on each wings. AA armament is only 2xR-3S (AA-2A) ir guided missile, without internal gun.
- MiG-21MF, two wing HPs on each wings. AA armament in only 4xR-3S (AA-2A), internal gun with 200 rounds. Only very limited qty. of Soviet MF could use R-3R (AA-2C), but this should not be modeled.
- MiG-21bis, if you wish save time you can use MF’s model or MF can use 3D model of bis. There were only slight differences between two AC. (There was more than one type of bis, bisAP-1 and and bis-AP2 have more antennas because of advanced naviagtional system) All bis had better radar, than other version. It had R-13M (AA-2-2), nitrogen coolded IR missile, R-3R (AA-2C) SARH and R-60(M) (AA-8) IR missiles. On outher wing HP in could carry paior of R-60s or 490 drop tanks. (Drop tanks were rarely used on wing HPs.) Gun ammo capacity was increased to 250.
These models, independent DB entries and unique dat fles (FM) are required for each subvariant to model the different versions with different capabilites.
Next AC family on red side is MiG-23. At least three different should be in DB to model the differencies concerning on different main parameters. (Empty weight, fuel qty., thrust, high AoA performance, weapons and radar)
- MiG-23MF
- MIG-23ML
- MiG-23MLD
RBK-250 should have size correction as I can remember.
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What about the Red Heavys?
Tu-95, Tu-16, Tu-22, Il-74/76/78, etc…
They could need an update too, no?The original list posted was in priority where the most seen aircraft in a campaign were given higher priority.
When Those are sorted I will start to expand the list. In the past people have modelled their favourite aircraft instead of the ones that are actually used in a campaign, we are trying to do it differently this time.
Regards
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The original list posted was in priority where the most seen aircraft in a campaign were given higher priority.
Good apspect, but in this case I do not understand why is on the list the B-1.
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I think that the heavies all require some attention. The B-52 will probably be operational longer than any of the current active fighters, including the F-22. The B-1 and the Chinese/Russian heavies will become interesting when a hitbox are included on the cruise missiles.
Then there are all the missing planes. On the south side the TA-50/T-50 is operational in numbers, and we are also missing the P-3 Orion with derivatives. Then there is the different Boeing 737’s, with the AWACS and the P-8 Poseidon. The Russian Tu-22 M3 would also be nice, and some passenger planes/business jets for some cool TE scenarios.
I really enjoy the art you 3D wizards are producing. It’s hard to catch it in the merge with a M-23, but I really have enjoyed Jan Haas’ C-130 crew and their cockpit work while holding on the ramp. Life on the air bases, makes things so much nicer.
Thx to all of you !!
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