Help with maverick boresight
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distance below 20nm
I am trying to boresight, is distance relevant?This is the training mission for the new 4.34: KF-16 block 52
maverick in PRE mode.DO you have a friend to fly with that can walk you through the process ?? Its hard to see if your doing something wrong in a thread.
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20nm isn’t close enough. Try less than 10. Depending on conditions (like in training mission) is about 5.
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Maverick has to lock. That’s a requirement. 20 nm as, above me said is not close enough. Also remember that it’s gonna be slant range. So your altitude matters too. I wouldn’t be above say 16000ft or so for boresighting. Good luck!
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i’l try again with your suggestions…
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Maverick has to lock. That’s a requirement. 20 nm as, above me said is not close enough. Also remember that it’s gonna be slant range. So your altitude matters too. I wouldn’t be above say 16000ft or so for boresighting. Good luck!
but in the training mission boresight is done above 10:
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And in the forums, other people are supposed to see your attachments, but……
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but in the training mission boresight is done above 10:
Target size among others, plays a role.
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but in the training mission boresight is done above 10:
Yes and it works, unlike what some say here. The picture on page 125 prove it.
It’s a big ship, easy to find and with very good contrast. And weather is not yet an issue and unlike what some have forgotten, there is also a cavok version.5Nm might be an accurate distance if you try to boresight on you actual target which is a vehicule, but that would be bad procedure IMHO
The ship serve that purpose in the Te and if you can’t do it on the ship, you have a second chance on the coastal city when you go feet dry.Lots of issues on this forum are because ppl trying to help just don’t consider the reference the Op give and all go with their own ideas, or solutions.
Just consider the referral and maybe we could solve the questions without dramas and in less than 15 pages of mumbo jumbo like seen before in other topic
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thank you all
working now - i got closed and managed to lock.
What confused me was that i was not able to lock and boresight from further sway.
I thought that boresight could be accomplished at max range 15nm for D type and 20 for G. -
Quick note, BTW : the only prerequisite for boresight is to have the Maverick locked. No need to have the TGP locked before, after…
So it is perfectly doable to point the TGP somewhere, switch SOI to weapon, lock something, then put the TGP on the same thing afterwards and click boresight. You don’t even need to lock the TGP.
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Quick note, BTW : the only prerequisite for boresight is to have the Maverick locked. No need to have the TGP locked before, after…
So it is perfectly doable to point the TGP somewhere, switch SOI to weapon, lock something, then put the TGP on the same thing afterwards and click boresight. You don’t even need to lock the TGP.
Even with one eye closed :P. For a matter of precision maybe. Isn’t it an insurance for accuracy and speed when it comes to targeting vehicles without having to adjust on weapon’s display, in comparison to the cost of a TGP lock during boresight?
Cool and slow with plenty of precision
With a back beat narrow and hard to master -
Remember that you are NEVER going to achieve those kinds of ranges on tac sized targets. BMS is generous, you might get something at 5-6 miles.
We’ve got a RL Hawg driver who trains with mavs a lot. One point he’s tried to hammer home is that the Mav is primarily a VISUAL weapon. They never slave them with the TGP. The farthest distance he’s ever got a Mav to lock up reliably was 3nm.
Typically they attack from a 15k base alt on a 20-30 degree wire, rifling at 2-3 miles.
LMAVS are where they can get double digit ranges.
Here’s a little gem:
Standard tactics are to have the mav uncaged, roll in dive, and literally place the reticle in the target area as if it was CCIP. Let the scene develop in WFOV, go NARO, find the target, lock, wait 2 seconds and smoke a lucky, then rifle. This is all while your in a dive screaming at the earth and your staring at an MFD. Now try doing this at night. If you get a flashing cross you have to wait, and because of IR heating, its super easy for the mav to not lock up a tac sized target. I was 1/2 on the 69mph mover because the second time I could not get it to bound properly. This shit is old tech.
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…LMAV iz da bomb.
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DO you have a friend to fly with that can walk you through the process ?? Its hard to see if your doing something wrong in a thread.
+1
Also, you don’t have to boresight; often a TGP is not in stock or maybe it’s broken; then time for old school. If you want help via MP shoot me a PM
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Remember that you are NEVER going to achieve those kinds of ranges on tac sized targets. BMS is generous, you might get something at 5-6 miles.
We’ve got a RL Hawg driver who trains with mavs a lot. One point he’s tried to hammer home is that the Mav is primarily a VISUAL weapon. They never slave them with the TGP. The farthest distance he’s ever got a Mav to lock up reliably was 3nm.
Typically they attack from a 15k base alt on a 20-30 degree wire, rifling at 2-3 miles.
LMAVS are where they can get double digit ranges.
Here’s a little gem:
There is a reason why I put TGP in area, switch SOI to WPN, track missile, then SOI TGP and make TGP track what missile is tracking. See sometimes there are many targets close together and which object missile will track is a roll of the dice. So I don’t sweat it, let missile track something and then later I can go into TGP and make it track to match missile. TGP is much better behaved to track exactly what I want so easier to make that match missile than start with TGP and hope missile tracks same as TGP.
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While practicing this, can’t help hearing myself say “Thank God for the China Hat in the A-10C.” China hat fwd long slaves all sensors to spi. Perhaps later Blocks of the F-16 have a similar Hotas function(of course without the China)?
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While practicing this, can’t help hearing myself say “Thank God for the China Hat in the A-10C.” China hat fwd long slaves all sensors to spi. Perhaps later Blocks of the F-16 have a similar Hotas function(of course without the China)?
The A-10C in DCS does not model boresight error. In the F-16, in PRE, the mav is slaved to the SPI except if moved manually, and getting back to the SPI is done with TMS Down. So the ‘slave all to spi’ is the default state
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So the MAV has now become a stand off weapon with a range of perhaps 5nm in 4.34 rather than the 10 to 12nm range in 4.33 or am I missing something?
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While practicing this, can’t help hearing myself say “Thank God for the China Hat in the A-10C.” China hat fwd long slaves all sensors to spi. Perhaps later Blocks of the F-16 have a similar Hotas function(of course without the China)?
F-16 is even easier than A-10. Just point track TGP and missile is ready to fire. A-10 is more laborsome by comparison. All the work in F-16 is due to preparation efforts. Have you done A-10 missile calibration routine? It’s annoying and no one does it because there is no alignment error in DCS to begin with.
So the MAV has now become a stand off weapon with a range of perhaps 5nm in 4.34 rather than the 10 to 12nm range in 4.33 or am I missing something?
I haven’t noticed any significant difference in ranges by BMS version. Usually tracking distance is limiting factor but big fat target in good weather you can track out to kinematic range limit.
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Correct me if I’m wrong but in 4.34 You can lock up a target using the TGP at longer range (>20nm) and just keep flying closer until WPN locks automatically (assuming boresight done correctly). This is because 4.34 handoff does not time out. I’m not sure if this is realistic but very useful. But after hearing that RL pilot talk about MAV visual employment I’ll need to try that with VIS mode.