Creating a TE with Refuel station…no comm freq or band setting in mission briefing.
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ok thanks guys….but I am still not sure what you mean.
I have the tanker’s stp 3 marked: Alt 20,300, TAS: 300 kts, Enroute: Fuel, Action: Refuel, with a Patrol Duration of 4 hrs.
(are you saying I need to make another stp so that it fly’s it back and forth?)My stp 4 (which corresponds in the area of the tanker): Alt 20,000, TAS 350 kts, Enroute: Nav, Action Fuel. Duration is 0.
I am also not sure what you mean by WDP.
As I previous stated you tanker need 2 consecutive Waypoint with Enroute: Fuel and Action:Fuel otherwise it will not stay on station and fly a race track between those 2 waypoint.
Best have a look on KTO training missin TR_BMS_05_AAR and look at the 2 AIR REFUEL flightsWDP is a tool for BMS called weapons delivery planner and should be a must have for any BMS user
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Ok I have added a second STP for the tanker (stp 4) with the enroute and action set both to fuel. I have also changed the stp 3 with the same.
I still am not getting the tactical informationOk, I have looked at the WDP before. and really dontt understand how to use it. (somewhat confused about it) Also in the website there is a movie section (assuming tutorials) but there is not movies when I click on something.
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Does the Tanker TOT. Match so that it’s already on station. If not you might not get it shown in briefing
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Yes, I believe so.
My flight arrives at stp 4 at 1:23:50:25
The tanker is at stp 3 (close to my stp 4) at 1:22:08:02 and ahs a patrol duration for 4 hours.I did just add a AWAC, and that does show in my briefing as check-in (channel 5). So I imagine I can request refuel to the nearest tanker and it will give me co-ordinates an frequencies…??
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2 refuel steerpoints otherwise the tanker will not fly a pattern
He means adding a steerpoint for the fighter’s flight plan.
Not intending to bother you two, dear friends Oak and Lorik… but actually you are right both, but just stating your own half of the whole speech.
It takes to be added two refueling wpts. for the tanker, and this is the mandatory part.
Just after having done that, adding a reflueling wpt. for the fighter flight is a very nice touch of class, and may help the AI pilot(s) of the flight to behave much better, if done properly - planning carefully the stationing duration time is my advise about.Just my own cent here, not more or else.
With best regards.
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I am still having the same issue…
Here is the mission setup.Mission start at 1:23:00:03
Refueling plane - Texaco 1Stp 1 – Takeoff Sokcho Airbase at 1:21:42:25
Stp 2 – Alt 24,500 – TAS 345, at 1:21:58:04 – Enroute and Action both set to Nav
Stp 3 – Alt 20,300 – TAS 345, at 1:22:14:02 - Enroute and Action both set to Fuel – patrol duration 5:10:00 (first tgt marker for tanker pattern).
Stp 4 – Alt 20,500 – TAS 345, at 2:3:29:11 - Enroute and Action both set to Fuel – patrol duration 5:10:00 (second tgt marker for tanker pattern).
Stp 5 – Alt 0 –TAS 350, at 3:7:56:25 – Land at Sokcho AirbaseMy formation
Stp 1 – Takeoff Sockcho at 1:23:24:50
Stp 2 – Alt 10,800 – TAS 305, at 1:23:29:51 - Enroute and Action both set to Nav
Stp 3 – Alt 6,300 – TAS 305, at 1:23:42:11 - Enroute and Action both set to Nav
Stp 4 – Alt 20,300 – TAS 305, at 1:23:54:29 – Enroute – Nav Action – Refuel
Make contact with Tanker and Boresight mavericksFrom what I see, the tanker is at stp 3 at 1:22:14:02, and I am in close range at my Stp 4 at 1:23:54:29. I also have Awacs in the area, but when I request nearest tanker it says that there is no one available. It seems that the patrol duration time of both Stp 3 and 4 is not being obeyed.
Although I have the Awac call sign and UHF feq and Channel listed in the Briefing page, I don’t see one for the tanker -
It seems that you allow 16 seconds for the tanker between steer 2 and 3? The timings are probably off. I would give him ample time to get up to station, then go airborne myself 10-20 minutes later
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Ok I have changed the times as follows.
Stp 1 take off at 1:20:42:45
Stp 2 1:20:58:36 - distance to Stp 2 - 3 is 67.8, the speed goes from 300 at stp 2 to 350 at stp 3. if I adjust time or speed the route line goes red.
Stp 3 1:21:10:16 with a patrol duration of 5 hrs. Distance between 3 and 4 is 29.4 at a speed of 345 if I adjust time or speed the route line goes red.
Stp 4 2:2:26:26 with a patrol duration of 5 hrs.So when the tanker gets to sto 3, will it fly between stp 3 and 4 for 5 hours?
Still no call sign and UHF feq and Channel for the tanker on briefing page.
And also, when I check in to AWACs, there is no acknowledgement, when I request nearest tanker. it has replied, Should AWAC acknowledge check in?
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Try and look into this mission that hoover made - it works with multiple tankers: https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/showthread.php?41982-KTO-4-35-1-AAR-night-training
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Ok I have changed the times as follows.
Stp 1 take off at 1:20:42:45
Stp 2 1:20:58:36 - distance to Stp 2 - 3 is 67.8, the speed goes from 300 at stp 2 to 350 at stp 3. if I adjust time or speed the route line goes red.
Stp 3 1:21:10:16 with a patrol duration of 5 hrs. Distance between 3 and 4 is 29.4 at a speed of 345 if I adjust time or speed the route line goes red.
Stp 4 2:2:26:26 with a patrol duration of 5 hrs.So when the tanker gets to sto 3, will it fly between stp 3 and 4 for 5 hours?
Still no call sign and UHF feq and Channel for the tanker on briefing page.
And also, when I check in to AWACs, there is no acknowledgement, when I request nearest tanker. it has replied, Should AWAC acknowledge check in?
Check-In has never been working since I used BMS, which is 4.33.
If you want help with your TE, post the files rather than copying lines, you’ll gain time, and we’ll be able to analyze.
When you frag a tanker for a time, the flight plan should be completely functional. I don’t know what else is happening to you, or what you do, that brings problems.
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Here is the files. I wasn’t sure which ones you need so I put them all in a zip file.
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Here is the files. I wasn’t sure which ones you need so I put them all in a zip file.
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Thanks Lorik.
I have the tanker running the course based on instruction from your video…great…Just one quick question.
When I click on my plane, and go to the Briefing page, I still don’t see the tanker UHF feq and channel. I only see the AWAC.
If I go to the Tanker, and click on the briefing page, I see the tanker and AWAC UHF feq and channel.Shouldn’t I see both the AWAC and Tanker UHF or UHV feq and channel when I go to the briefing page from my flight?
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Thanks Lorik.
I have the tanker running the course based on instruction from your video…great…Just one quick question.
When I click on my plane, and go to the Briefing page, I still don’t see the tanker UHF feq and channel. I only see the AWAC.
If I go to the Tanker, and click on the briefing page, I see the tanker and AWAC UHF feq and channel.Shouldn’t I see both the AWAC and Tanker UHF or UHV feq and channel when I go to the briefing page from my flight?
I’m not sure this works very well. The briefing page was reworked for next version anyway. Source: Boxer.
Your AWACS frequency is your UHF 6, no else.
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In the list of steerpoints in the briefing, does it say Refuel at one of them? I just checked the mission by hoover that I linked to above, and there the briefing shows tanker UHF. You should really compare to his mission, sounds very similar to what you are trying to do.
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Back to initial remark, then.
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Here is the files. I wasn’t sure which ones you need so I put them all in a zip file.
Not sure if I understand all this correctly, but your file looks ok to me and I can see the Tanker UHF just fine.
Is it possible that you are still in “Editor Mode” while looking at your Briefing; there I didn´t saw the Tanker Freq. -
what dos it mean when tanker says “not available”?
And is it possible to do refueling in campaign even though it wasn’t on your way point? I did this before whenever I am low on gas but caused some glitches -
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Not sure if I understand all this correctly, but your file looks ok to me and I can see the Tanker UHF just fine.
Is it possible that you are still in “Editor Mode” while looking at your Briefing; there I didn´t saw the Tanker Freq.I don’t believe I am in editor mode when I check the briefing….
I mean,I click on the mission and click on “commit”., click on my package (4958), click on the F-16 icon, and go to briefing…don’t see what you see in your screenshot…Dragnet is there, but not Texaco…
Perhaps Lorki is right,it is OK, but just a system glitch…Hopefully will have time fly this TE today to find out…