taxi late interrupt takoff sequence
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<blockquote>@Jetsun <span style=“color:#333333”>Friedrich August von Hayek disagree, he said everybody selfish lead to public good.</span><br />Although I think he’s exaggerating a bit.</blockquote><p>Rather sounds like Hayek doesn’t have the basics in place, wouldn’t trust the work of this guy. </p>
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<blockquote>@SOBO-87 @SemlerPDX Not sure it’s worth insisting; let him work on a new code for ATC and everything that makes BMS not perfect, then we’ll talk about our own toilets while saying we don’t, to point out everything that should be improved in his work.</blockquote><p><br />For some reason I have an image in my head of him getting a lot of “you didn’t win but here you go” trophies… <img src=“/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f644.png?v=gcfd8gb1ch8” alt=“” class=“not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji–face_with_rolling_eyes” /> </p>
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<p>@Icer keep silent next time u found some bug.<br />otherwise u rob my trophies.</p>
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<p>First…<br /><br />BMS ATC is very complex and we simply cannot cater for users that refuse to follow ATC instructions.<br />4.36 will improve some bits on that but please understand this is a very complex machinery!<br /><br />Second…<br /><br />You’re assuming things that are simply not true… So please, others have been trying to tell you how to improve your experience, don’t try to be the smarter guy in the room… You simply don’t know much about falcon yet.<br /><br /><br />Cheers</p>
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<p>@MaxWaldorf sigh, i said it again and again, i <span style=“color:#e60000”>didnot</span> refuse to follow ATC instructions.<br />i <span style=“color:#e60000”>do follow ATC instructions</span>, now i m stuck in middle of taxi way.<br />yes, i can overtake the AI in front of me as others suggest, i can takoff anyway.<br />but it just don’t feel realistic, doing sth never happen in real life – not feel real.<br /></p>
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<p>@Gear5 then wait for 4.36…<br /><br />A lot of work done on that part…</p>
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<p>@Gear5 I would guess that you got the calls “is there a problem?” or “expedite taxiing” since you were a bit late to start taxiing? Ground aborting your flight might have resolved the situation, allowing the other flights to move. You did taxi late, after all, so aborting and then re-requesting taxi again could perhaps have resolved the queing issues in the mind of the ATC. <br /></p>
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<blockquote>@Gear5 I would guess that you got the calls “is there a problem?” or “expedite taxiing” since you were a bit late to start taxiing? Ground aborting your flight might have resolved the situation, allowing the other flights to move. You did taxi late, after all, so aborting and then re-requesting taxi again could perhaps have resolved the queing issues in the mind of the ATC. <br /><br /></blockquote><p>Jayb, what you’re saying would certainly help solve Gear’s issue. But, can BMS do that? I’ve never looked that deeply into the comms menu. Maybe, as Max wrote, at some point something like an “abort takeoff” may get put in.<br />Gear, in the meantime, another “work around” would be to discard the mission, reload your DTC , double check loadout, and just go back in.</p>
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<p>@drtbkj Yes, absolutely an option. In the ATC comms menus you are generally able to Abort, which will kick you out of the queing system whether it be approach, tower. Ground abort is more granular than a blanket Abort, in that you can choose individual flight members:<br /><br /><img class=“ql-image” src=“https://i.imgur.com/DkGr9Y7.jpg” /></p>
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<blockquote>@drtbkj Yes, absolutely an option. In the ATC comms menus you are generally able to Abort, which will kick you out of the queing system whether it be approach, tower. Ground abort is more granular than a blanket Abort, in that you can choose individual flight members:<br /><br /><img class=“ql-image” src=“https://i.imgur.com/DkGr9Y7.jpg” /></blockquote><p> <br /><br />Cool! Learn something new every day. I’ll have to check out what that does.</p>
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<blockquote>@MaxWaldorf sigh, i said it again and again, i <span style=“color:#e60000”>didnot</span> refuse to follow ATC instructions.<br />i <span style=“color:#e60000”>do follow ATC instructions</span>, now i m stuck in middle of taxi way.<br />yes, i can overtake the AI in front of me as others suggest, i can takoff anyway.<br />but it just don’t feel realistic, doing sth never happen in real life – not feel real.<br /><br /></blockquote><p><br />Maybe lost in translation, i dunno, it’s not that you refused to follow instructions, but you failed to follow them. You went to the toilet, and missed your window, shit happens and sims will always have an element or few that can pull you out of the realsim.<br /><br />Lotta great suggestions in this thread for workarounds, and even a very sim-immersion friendly one by jayb up there. Hope these will tide you over until 4.36 <img src=“/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f37b.png?v=gcfd8gb1ch8” alt=“” class=“not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji–beers” /> </p>
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<p>@drtbkj Yeah, maybe it can resolve some situations where the AI get stuck/confused on a carrier as well. On airbases it usually works fine</p>
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<blockquote>You went to the toilet…<br />…shit happens </blockquote><p><br /><br /><em>Hee hee…</em> <img src=“/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f601.png?v=gcfd8gb1ch8” alt=“” class=“not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji–grin” /> </p>
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<p>@jayb GREAT, it really works. thanks.</p>
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<blockquote>You went to the toilet…<br />…shit happens <br /><br /><br /><em>Hee hee…</em> <img src=“/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f601.png?v=gcfd8gb1ch8” alt=“” class=“not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji–grin” /> </blockquote><p><br />Atagon, I’m glad I’m not the only one who noticed Semler’s , shall we say , pun.</p>
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<blockquote>@Gear5 then wait for 4.36…<br /><br />A lot of work done on that part…</blockquote><p><br />4.36 won’t solve any issue here as there is actually no issue to solve </p>
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<blockquote>@Gear5 then wait for 4.36…<br /><br />A lot of work done on that part…<br /><br />4.36 won’t solve any issue here as there is actually no issue to solve </blockquote><p>so what can i do if i m late for taxi?<br />r u telling me taxi late is strict forbidden in BMS?</p>
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<blockquote>@Gear5 then wait for 4.36…<br /><br />A lot of work done on that part…<br /><br />4.36 won’t solve any issue here as there is actually no issue to solve <br />so what can i do if i m late for taxi?<br />r u telling me taxi late is strict forbidden in BMS?</blockquote><p><br /><br />if you are late for taxi you have two options<br /><br />1) just stay late and taxi when you can ,but if you are too much late the ATC operations will resume without you and you will have to call ATC again before taxiing. Just ask repeat to ATC to check if you still are in the queue<br /><br />2) just ground abort and in that case ATC operations will resume immediately . However ground aborting AI will make then despawn after a while <br /><br />however , I don’t understand how you can be late since the ATC taxi call should be done only when you are ready. <br /><br />anyway 4.36 brings some aditionnal improvements on the edge cases as well <br /><br /><br /><br /></p>
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not relevant now with 4.36 out…
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