Mission Commander beta release
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@yavuz said in Mission Commander beta release:
hi
is there any possibilty to change count of the store max ammo in MCThis is not defined thus not changed in MC, but in the database, reached through the Editor. Use at your own risk.
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Yes , unfortunately there is something bugged in conversion …
I’ve tried TE_15_harm , and it throws index out of bounds…
But, the problem is somewhere in $tring naming scheme , so it is not drastic /// as MC cleanly loads that TE and db from 4.35 when opened for editing.
So problem is only in CONVERSION of NAMING SYNTAX … there is buffer overrun as it don’t like some names probably in “TranslateObj.txt” in MC’s directory// as error clearly says that names of OBJECIVE(S) throw exception.
until buffer fills itself with garbage.BUT! . instead of crying , you could have investigate that and pinpoint it to the @Falcas … HE IS here for US , so … yes …
Again sorry for screaming at you but would you please be more specific in error and bug reporting and not just like little girsl… it’s broken daddy can you fix it .
There is a theread for proper BUG-reports , I suggest to read it and behave like that. , It makes lives easier for anyone.
Cheers eh …
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@white_fang said in Mission Commander beta release:
Yes , unfortunately there is something bugged in conversion …
I’ve tried TE_15_harm , and it throws index out of bounds…
But, the problem is somewhere in $tring naming scheme , so it is not drastic /// as MC cleanly loads that TE and db from 4.35 when opened for editing.
So problem is only in CONVERSION of NAMING SYNTAX … there is buffer overrun as it don’t like some names probably in “TranslateObj.txt” in MC’s directory// as error clearly says that names of OBJECIVE(S) throw exception.
until buffer fills itself with garbage.BUT! . instead of crying , you could have investigate that and pinpoint it to the @Falcas … HE IS here for US , so … yes …
Again sorry for screaming at you but would you please be more specific in error and bug reporting and not just like little girsl… it’s broken daddy can you fix it .
There is a theread for proper BUG-reports , I suggest to read it and behave like that. , It makes lives easier for anyone.
Cheers eh …
A bit more respect please.
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@LorikEolmin
No problem with that.But it goes to you also. Please show some respect to BUG-reporting thread
Did you file a proper bug report here, in last 10 pages? , else , then ‘it doesn’t work’
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@white_fang said in Mission Commander beta release:
@LorikEolmin
No problem with that.But it goes to you also. Please show some respect to BUG-reporting thread
Did you file a proper bug report here, in last 10 pages? , else , then ‘it doesn’t work’
I’m not certain you should go deeper into this. If you wanted to say you’re sorry, one word is enough. If it’s too hard, better say nothing.
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@LorikEolmin Look here,
Yes it goes a bit deeper then that.I’m sayin that in 10 pages you haven’t moved from a dead spot, wasted effort, maybe a bit harsh , but its just a way it is … like women in bazar …
There is no sense in commenting on a dead horse. It wont get you anywhere.On the other hand I’ve found YOU a reason in 20 minutes .
Now while you keep waiting till its fixed , you can comment further, be my guest.I’m done being “the same” .
Cheerio,. old bugger.
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Timeout guys…
I’ve done that conversion for Baltic and Georgia… If my busy schedule allows it, I’ll try to make a video demonstrating it…
Cheers
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You must be kidding us?!
What if not reporting bugs is this thread for?
First mention of the problem with screenshot: https://forum.falcon-bms.com/post/341696
Exception details here: https://forum.falcon-bms.com/post/341774
and here: https://forum.falcon-bms.com/post/342425 (screenshot)
Falcas did show up (I dropped him a PM too), so perfectly aware of the issue, he just did not see a problem with it. -
@MaxWaldorf
Video would be much appreciated.
I’d suggest starting simple with converting TE_15_harm. -
@MaxWaldorf said in Mission Commander beta release:
Timeout guys…
I’ve done that conversion for Baltic and Georgia… If my busy schedule allows it, I’ll try to make a video demonstrating it…
Cheers
Yes, as Logic said. I’m not sure a video about converting Baltic would be worth your time, as I just converted your Baltic campaign 35 to 36 within a minute with the 5 steps without any of the problems I have with a 35 TE.
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This is your error. Good Luck
YES , it is only Korea KTO specific.… but have a thought 'bout it … THINK that someone already mentioned THIS in those previous “10 pages” - so Thank that “unknown” hero! for diZcovery
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@white_fang said in Mission Commander beta release:
This is your error. Good Luck
YES , it is only Korea KTO specific.… but have a thought 'bout it … THINK that someone already mentioned THIS in those previous “10 pages” - so Thank that “unknown” hero! for diZcovery
I already did there.
https://forum.falcon-bms.com/post/342776Now, please, stop stirring things up. You’re not helping anyone.
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@LorikEolmin OH YES IT IS…
-only thing I didn’t do is select RIGHT differences between databases, I didn’t feel like as i don’t need it, just to prove it can be done
Presents, right from the oven: “TE_BMS_15_HARM_Planconverted.tac”
-v108 wherre availableHere you are and thank you and welcome. So you don have to bother, anymore .
Next time try harder.
Cheers …/…/…/…
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Wow, I do hope threads like this never get leaked out to a behavioral psychologist. Reading through this from the sidelines is eye-opening and a bit scary.
But thank you to everyone that kept focusing on the issue and tried to calmly restate the problem as best they could (and those that rationally tried to debug / replicate the issue as best they could).
Thank you @Falcas for wading through this and releasing updates as well.
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Given the time spent on the subject …
Maybe redoing the TE quickly would have been faster?
Falcas does not take PMs and answers when he can… If there is something to fix, he will…
Now let’s calm down and find alternative solutions…
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@Zeus Oh I’m pretty sure that psych is already under it… as a matter of fact I’m having a dinner with one also.
Meh, anyways, always remember: “You have to think in Russian”
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New version available (quick release) latest version is build 686.
You can get it on the WDP website.I’ll write something about the conversion in a new post, but first things first…
Too much negative things have been going on in this thread lately.
And most of it I must say is just because of lack of patience.
Guys, I have a real life as well. Traveling all over the world non-stop and most of the time only got the option to do something on my laptop. And NO I do not have all versions with me all the time.
Don’t even have 4.36 with me as this is already old to what I am working on.So if something doesn’t work just don’t expect everything to be fixed right away. And yes I do understand you want to progress with your work on your theater or fly your old missions.
But the more nagging is going on, the less motivated I will be to even answer anything
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Conversion of mission files, what is it all about?
To start off with, remember the first rule.
It has never ever been possible to use or convert any mission file between different versions of Falcon.
And so never expect a conversion to be a simple one click and done feature. Even after a conversion not everything might be perfect.How to do a conversion?
The process is straight forward. Just do the 5 steps as described in MC. Do them exactly else it will not work correctly.
If you do anything else than these 5 steps… well your mess.During the conversion process you will get multiple questions about weapons, vehicles, objective and you name it.
These questions are due to changes in the Falcon database.
Take these questions serious and answer them the best you can.
Skipping this part only makes things worse.
Make use of the options you have here. Each time you get a question like this, you have the option to let MC remember your choice. By selecting “Aways use” MC will not ask you this the next time. and the process becomes quicker and quicker.
In the respective buttons you can see how many you have stored.
For a first time conversion from 4.35 to 4.36 it needed 129 Objectives to be answered.Once the conversion process has been done, the mission file will be set to the latest file version and it will include all the new features which are stored in the files. When you have saved the file, the main process has been done.
However, this does not mean everything is perfect.Let me give you an example. Just sticking to an aircraft here, but the same applies to everything else. Objectives Vehicles, Ships.
You have a mission with an F-16 with a specific loadout.
The database has been changed and maybe this version of the F-16 is totally not available anymore. Or the weapons loaded are not available anymore. Maybe you can have the weapons on this F-16, but not on the hardpoints they where.
As soon as this is the case, MC will ask you to choose what to do.
It will come with a suggestion which is mostly correct. However not always!!!
So in this mission the F-16 had an IRIS-T on station 2. With the database change the IRIS-T has been removed from the aircraft completely. MC will ask you what you want to replace it with.
It will tell you is was the IRIS-T on station 2 and will give you a list of all possible A-A missiles you can choose from.
Replacing it with a AIM-9 or AIM-120 would be a choice you have to make. But this can change the way the mission will become. Using a AIM-120 and suddenly the mission will become easier. MC can’t make that choice so you have to do this.
Also here, make good use of the “Always use” function!!!Then we come to the question if you can convert a running campaign?
SURE YOU CAN!!!
But you must understand with what I have written above, the first few hours of the campaign, will not be perfect. How much you actually notice from this nobody can really answer.
This applies to flights already planned. For all new flight being planned, everything should work normally again.So what can be done after you have converted the mission?
With MC you can always check and change loadouts of aircrafts.
Flight which are still on ground, but also flights which already departed.End word
Without this conversion feature it would never been possible to change the mission files and add the new features we have today.
And yes there are many important features added compared to the original files.
The feature is not perfect (and never will be) but it brought us an enormous progress in options. -
@Falcas
This may be called a fair and explanatory speech.
But - please excuse me for that - have you ever considered to write a full manual about it? It could be a pain, but also even it would avoid to ask you a lot of question, who nows.Thanks a lot, and with best regards.
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Falcas, huge thanks for that latest version, I was having the TE issue and your fix seems to work so far. Thanks also for the explanation of what’s actually going on, and what it actually wants to replace in each box, those help a ton!