[4.37] AI got some issues with each other (... or, watch your back)
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Not the first time i noticed this.
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I guess that solves any Eagle Vs Raptor debate…
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Got ACMI? (Amraam into a furball? I don’t know if AI in BMS has smarts to hold fire to avoid fratricide.)
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@airtex2019 said in [4.37] AI got some issues with each other (... or, watch your back):
Got ACMI?
no ACMI
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During check of my last mission in tacview i noticed another blue force that kill blue force. No red forces at the area, so this is not a mistake -
I think this is a big issue . . .
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@hoover said in [4.37] AI got some issues with each other (... or, watch your back):
did you save the mission before entering 3d? Could you provide a repro case?
Cheers, Uwe
no saved mission.
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@regev -
Just happened to me earlier this evening.
KTO, no mods
Iron Fortress, Day 1, 3rd missionI was leading a 4-ship Jackal 2 OCA Strike flight, supported by
- a 2-ship SEAD
- a 2-ship ESCORT
- a 4-ship TARCAP
There was a lot of red air before, during, and after arriving on target. After releasing A/G munitions, I called ‘Weapons Free, Air-to-Air’ to my flight, and we joined our ESCORT and TARCAP for the furball. A few minutes into the furball, I heard a RESCAP call for Jackal 22.
When we eventually RTB and I returned to 2D to review the mission results, I discovered that Jackal 24 shot down Jackal 22 with a AIM-120C. Rumor is, Jackal 24 was fooling around with Jackal 22’s girlfriend. But it’s just a rumor.
I have the ACMI, although I haven’t looked at it yet. If I see Jackal 22 flying past Jackal 24’s parachute flipping him off, then the rumor is true.
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@SoBad good info and it confirmed what i experianced.
think about all those incidents that you don’t know about in the campaign.like i said, this is a huge issue, damaging the realisem of the sim.
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@SoBad said in [4.37] AI got some issues with each other (... or, watch your back):
@regev -
Just happened to me earlier this evening.
KTO, no mods
Iron Fortress, Day 1, 3rd missionI was leading a 4-ship Jackal 2 OCA Strike flight, supported by
- a 2-ship SEAD
- a 2-ship ESCORT
- a 4-ship TARCAP
There was a lot of red air before, during, and after arriving on target. After releasing A/G munitions, I called ‘Weapons Free, Air-to-Air’ to my flight, and we joined our ESCORT and TARCAP for the furball. A few minutes into the furball, I heard a RESCAP call for Jackal 22.
When we eventually RTB and I returned to 2D to review the mission results, I discovered that Jackal 24 shot down Jackal 22 with a AIM-120C. Rumor is, Jackal 24 was fooling around with Jackal 22’s girlfriend. But it’s just a rumor.
I have the ACMI, although I haven’t looked at it yet. If I see Jackal 22 flying past Jackal 24’s parachute flipping him off, then the rumor is true.
Aim120 has no IFF system , when it performs
A MPRF search it can target anyone.there is a CAF coded for AI but this is not a 100% guarantee
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@Mav-jp look at the second incident i experienced, there is pictures from TACVIEW.
Blue fire deliberate on blue force, no RED forces in the area.
2 missiles shot, 2 missiles hit. -
@Mav-jp question I’ve always had and somewhat appropriate to this thread, will having a bent Mode 4 IFF increase odds of blue on blue from either aircraft or friendly SAMs?
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@Snake122 said in [4.37] AI got some issues with each other (... or, watch your back):
@Mav-jp question I’ve always had and somewhat appropriate to this thread, will having a bent Mode 4 IFF increase odds of blue on blue from either aircraft or friendly SAMs?
Manual says no.
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@regev said in [4.37] AI got some issues with each other (... or, watch your back):
@Mav-jp look at the second incident i experienced, there is pictures from TACVIEW.
Blue fire deliberate on blue force, no RED forces in the area.
2 missiles shot, 2 missiles hit.can you upload the actual acmi file somewhere? I can’t easily grasp the scale of distance there … or see what was beyond the F-22
(and would the EF2k even be able to see the F-22 on radar? maybe depends on the distance? different topic.)