Phantom Phrustration
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@jayb Gross weight 45801. Not red.
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when ı am ın full ab wıth rockıng wıngs and takıng of wıth f-4 otherwıse ı am stıckıng on the runway
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@TOPOLO What kind of fix are you talking about? ACDATA file modification?.. elsewhere?
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@parislord said in Phantom Phrustration:
@Xeno: Tried on default AND Easy, switched to Easy to try it at much higher than rotate speed. Cannot get the a/c to lift-off under any circumstances… I thinks it’s some kind of weight issue: if I take out about 20% of the internal fuel it’ll pitch-up abruptly around 285kts. This was with 3x AIM-7, 4x AIM-9, ALQ-119 and 2x Wing-Tanks. With 3x Tanks, it will not lift off at all until I end the mission at which key-press it suddenly takes-off at a steep but effortless pitch-up.
Same here, reducing fuel amount allows taking-off.
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@LorikEolmin - may also want to check your stores loadout. Balance stores vs fuel…and check how stores affects CG. I did notice a comment in the Phantom Dash 1 about the effect of loadout on takeoff performance.
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@Stevie said in Phantom Phrustration:
@LorikEolmin - may also want to check your stores loadout. Balance stores vs fuel…and check how stores affects CG. I did notice a comment in the Phantom Dash 1 about the effect of loadout on takeoff performance.
Reply in my video title.
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Now I don’t know what the f*ck to do: when I plug-in my old X52, the plane lifts-off, fine. But in the setup screen, both stick show the same degree of travel and no discernable difference in response-time (input-lag).
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@parislord - take a look at them in the default Windows Calibrator, and see if that matches up to what Setup is telling you.
If not, you may be able to trick the Windows Calibration into providing something Setup can use - I’ve done this myself.
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@Stevie: the only thing I can find under windows calibrator is for my monitor. What app are you referring-to?
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@Stevie: Okay, if you’re referring to joy.cpl: found it, no-joy…
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@parislord - there is a Game Controller Calibration wizard buried in the Control Panels. This is an explanation of it -
…but I don’t seem to recall having had to jump through all these hoops to get to it. I think if you just look for your controller under Devices you’ll find a way to calibrate it and check (assign?) buttons under/within Windows.
You may simply need to go to Devices, right-click your controller, and select Properties…that’s more what I seem to recall doing, now that I think.
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@LorikEolmin said in Phantom Phrustration:
Same here, reducing fuel amount allows taking-off.
So it does seem related to gross weight vs thrust, ie. a flight model issue ?
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@jayb said in Phantom Phrustration:
@LorikEolmin said in Phantom Phrustration:
Same here, reducing fuel amount allows taking-off.
So it does seem related to gross weight vs thrust, ie. a flight model issue ?
Not sure. I have a perfect vanilla 37.0 (I just enable throttle and stick on it and import the TE), which works. But I didn’t mod KTO, so there is something in a “stupid” parameter that has an effect. I can’t find what. It’s not an easy mode or acdata, obviously.
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@Stevie said in Phantom Phrustration:
@LorikEolmin - may also want to check your stores loadout. Balance stores vs fuel…and check how stores affects CG. I did notice a comment in the Phantom Dash 1 about the effect of loadout on takeoff performance.
There is no concept of balance or GC is OFM
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@LorikEolmin Do you mean 37.2 or did you test in 37.0 ?
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@jayb said in Phantom Phrustration:
@LorikEolmin Do you mean 37.2 or did you test in 37.0 ?
I mean exactly what’s written.
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Can you provide me a TE repro case in 4.37.2 vanilla KTO ?
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You guys need to understand that OFM is absolutely shit of scripted pile is shit .
For instance the elevators have no real impact on the rotation of the aircraft on ground , there is just a parametric calculation that allow the model to pitch up or not.
As the f4 has a negative AoA on ground those calculations can go nuts
Fly AFM !
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I don’t fly the F4G, and that’s not the problem anyway, it’s elsewhere.
I tried to use the vanilla 37.0 Config folder instead of my current Config one (which I kept as a backup and source for reintroduction of my current setup). It works.
I used my backup Config to add files progressively to the vanilla 37.0 folder. It worked every time.
In the end, I renamed my real 37.2 User folder as “User” to have BMS use it effectively. It still works. Doing that modified something elsewhere, but I don’t know where. My 37.2 config folder was not changed. All I did was clearing the Logs folder in the process.
If that helps finding the culprit.
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Tested in 4.37.3
F4G full load , take off no issue