Will RAM upgrade improve FPS?
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Am using a Dell latitude 5480 with inbuilt 8Gb RAM, 500Gb SSD, Nvidia 930MX. Will upgrading the RAM to 16Gb Or 32Gb improve FPS? Thanks for anticipatory response!
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@Sniper-0 No
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@SemlerPDX Okk… Thank You
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@Sniper-0 it’s probably worth doing for other reasons, if you like the laptop and plan on keeping it for another couple years … and if you play other modern games on it.
but I doubt it would help BMS much.
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yes it would.
faster ram and at the same time more ram will give a boost in FPS.
Don’t expect much but it will be there.
Faster depends on your system. If you are already on super fast ram and the difference is rather small then it will not boost that much as some super trooper fast rams end up same speed processes instead of making them run faster… it’s a clocks synch thing.more ram if you r on one stick ram then going on 2 ram sticks will also boost things up.
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@airtex2019 alright, thank you
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@Arty alright, I’ll give it a trial. Thank you
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@Arty (this is a laptop)
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The reason for my blunt statement was that it is not a good place to improve FPS, and a laptop is essentially locked to its current performance. It would be throwing good money after bad, and is better spent elsewhere such as saving for a new one, or a PC (or PC component). Mythbusters proved that you can polish a turd, and some may consider 2-5FPS gain in the best scenario a polish if cost is not a factor, but a polished turd never stops being a turd.
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@SemlerPDX Yea BUT Laptops in general have lower speed memories, and some don’t take faster memories.
Laptops are un-upgradable in regard to GPU, so what u can upgrade is CPU and memory as HDD will not impact performance in FPS.
The gain as I said will not be enormous but will give a boost in most cases.Many times we focus only on increase on max FPS and we almost always neglect the low’s where is actually the need.
What do you prefer? above 90-100fps no matter what on max FPS or when it goes down where it stops? like to 20 or 30 or 40?
We all know that flight sims are performance hogs, so you know it’s gonna stress your hw to the limits and bottlenecks. So u want the max fps to be like 1000fps when nothing actually happens and be happy or when all hell is loose to have decent playable fps?
Everyone makes their choices depending on various reasons and one of them is money. Some cause they have crabs in their pockets some cause they just don’t have the money but they like flight sims.
So if u r on that area (no money) u must squeeze whatever you can from that HW in order to be ok with the sim.
For example in my setup I’m super happy with a 13 years old setup and triple monitors to have a playable FalconBMS.
Also besides hw and what you can get from it there are zillion of settings and apps and services that hog the systems that demand deep knowledge and headbanging in order to make them work and gain extra performance.
All this struggle will not get you from 60 to 200fps but when you had like 15 or 20 as low FPS and now you see 25 or 30 well then it’s a gain.
Lately for example I discovered that there is a hidden setting in BIOS that Nvidia doesn’t want it to become easy to set it up and use it as it gives a good performance boost on old systems.Enable Resizable BAR:
https://github.com/xCuri0/ReBarUEFICaution don’t go in to it if you don’t understand and don’t know even the smallest detail on it as it could cause you serious issues on your system.
Last Overclock which many see as the devil. I have mine for more than 10 years mostly OCed and didn’t had issues that were user induced. HW was bought second hand (used) and still going strong…
Only issue I have lately (last year) is with HDD’s but it’s not from overclocking. -
@airtex2019 i have a rog strix g15, which i upgraded to 32gb from 16gb , i got 3-5 fps increase in 4.38
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@okayasugf said in Will RAM upgrade improve FPS?:
@airtex2019 i have a rog strix g15, which i upgraded to 32gb from 16gb , i got 3-5 fps increase in 4.38
4.38?
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@Icer said in Will RAM upgrade improve FPS?:
@okayasugf said in Will RAM upgrade improve FPS?:
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@Sniper-0 said in Will RAM upgrade improve FPS?:
Am using a Dell latitude 5480 with inbuilt 8Gb RAM, 500Gb SSD, Nvidia 930MX. Will upgrading the RAM to 16Gb Or 32Gb improve FPS? Thanks for anticipatory response!
Well, I can say that I have some experience, almost all of our wing has low-performance PCs and in certain cases we have observed an increase from 10 to 15 fps with the increase from 8 to 16Gbs of RAM. Even in the case of a pilot with 8GB of RAM, he cannot have a single Chrome browser tab because the RAM reaches the maximum use of 7.5GB and the Falcon CTD, so 8GB is in the limit, in that case in particular.
I would recommend buying an 8GB one and that way you would reach 16Gbs, at least for this version 4.37 u3 hf2. You could gain some fps with our wing mod (Low End PC) but it should not be your case very critical.
GREETINGS.
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The OP question was simple: Will upgrading the RAM in this aging 7 year old Dell laptop increase the FPS?
The answer is still, without a doubt, firmly: No
Laptop memory is quite limited by the laptop and motherboard, and the available selection of this particular RAM (as approved by the laptop and motherboard). On top of that, the price per GB is insane compared to PC memory. You’re not gonna have a choice of various RAM speeds to “try out”, you’re gonna be lucky to find more than one singular compatible upgrade option for a nearly 8 year old machine.
We’re talking about a $100-200 upgrade (at least) for literally no appreciable gain to FPS. Again, it’s throwing good money after bad. Laptops have a lifespan, and this one has reached it - while it can be babied and used for a few more years before the battery can’t hold a charge, it’s primary function is now so degraded that adding anything to make it “better” is a sheer waste of money. Price per FPS gained is a real world consumer metric to be considered here, and it dictates that this is a bad idea.
But beyond that, I’m saying objectively that this laptop WILL NOT gain 10-15 FPS from any RAM upgrade, period - unequivocally. I don’t care if they were playing at 60FPS or 15FPS, unless the memory (or speed of memory) was a major limiting factor of the performance of this particular laptop in 3D applications, which it most certainly was not - that would be the Nvidia 930MX doing that and the coffin it lives in. I don’t care if technically on paper there should be a 1-3FPS gain, it’s still not gonna play out like that IRL, and would be a terrible waste of money (even if just to see/try).
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@SemlerPDX @arty lets also bust the myth that faster ram makes any observable performance difference to gameplay, especially fps, unless you’re going from ancient ram speeds to fairly modern.
I would say for BMS that 8->16gb will make a difference but after that, no.
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If this is the right part (?) would definitely pay $20 for a second stick of 8Gb
https://www.crucial.com/compatible-upgrade-for/dell/latitude-14-(5480)
Maybe $80 for 32Gb kit, but only because I’m a dev running compilers and debuggers and virts and stuff… not because it would make BMS run better.
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@rubbra said in Will RAM upgrade improve FPS?:
@SemlerPDX @arty lets also bust the myth that faster ram makes any observable performance difference to gameplay, especially fps, unless you’re going from ancient ram speeds to fairly modern.
I would say for BMS that 8->16gb will make a difference but after that, no.
That’s not a myth, that’s a fact.
But it is not as simple as “fast ram make FPS go BRRRR!”
Upgrading your RAM to a higher speed can improve your gaming performance, especially if you have a fast gaming computer with a slow RAM.
The speed of your RAM affects the overall performance of your computer, including the frames per second (FPS) in games - it is merely not the most affective component in what makes for a computer with high FPS. By upgrading to a higher speed RAM, you can increase the bandwidth and reduce the latency, which can result in faster load times and smoother gameplay. However,
other factors such as your CPU and GPU also play a role in determining your FPS, so upgrading your RAM alone may not always result in a significant improvement.It certainly won’t for this old laptop in any worthwhile way compared to the cost of the upgrade (even if $80). But if $20 is all it takes to learn this first hand, it’s money well spent - even if the only thing gained is knowledge.
Your system can literally be bottlenecked by the speed of the memory, when all other components are powerful enough to handle more data than the memory can provide (at a rate required to keep up). When all other ducks are in a row, you want the fastest and lowest latency memory you can afford at a capacity that is appropriate for what you use your system for.
That’s just not the case with this laptop, and again, that money is better spent saving for the next system or a component in the next system.
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@Sniper-0
I think the gist of it is — if you have 1GB RAM, then upgrading to 2GB RAM will improve performance. If you have 32GB RAM, then upgrading to 64GB RAM won’t do anything. At 8GB, you’re right at that cusp that 16GB will give you a bit more breathing room and you will probably see an improvement.How much improvement? It depends. More RAM may also mean you can have more programs running alongside your sim, so you may end up with the same FPS but with more stuff running in the background.
The bottom line here is value-for-money. If you don’t mind spending that money that’s burning a hole in your pocket, then go for it. If money/value is an issue, that money spent may not bring enough FPS improvement to warrant the cost.
Now in your specific instance, are you maxxing out your RAM? If so, then more RAM can help. However, if your CPU/GPU is running at max and your RAM is just there at 1/2 or 1/3 full, then more RAM won’t do anything. It’s not always a clear-cut answer.
Hope that helps a bit!
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@SemlerPDX no, it’s a myth. The observable performance difference is negligible. Sure if your system supported all the ddr specs, you could go from, say ddr2 to ddr 4 and see a big difference but within the same spec, bumping up a few MHz is utterly pointless; a few fps at best.
(but I completely agree about this particular laptop, though an upgrade to 16gb would extend its useful life for BMS for a bit)