Saitek X-52 Profile
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Randomly it will work properly, usually after I pull both controllers and plug them back in. The X-52 is mapped correctly, and the MFD on the throttle shows what is going on. Then just as randomly nearly everything quits working and buttons aren’t recognized etc. Everything is still fine in the profiler. I am confused.
Here is what my MFD gets stuck on. The pinky usually does the deed.
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Try to decrease the length of the name of the button you set in the software, if its longer than the display can display this thing can happen. I had it too and by decreasing the length I got it sorted.
Cheers
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Is anyone else having problems with the length of the names? Thanks for the info Fenrir. I am confused how the profiler does not work correctly with another controller plugged in. Newbie alert here. I have used controllers for a long time, but almost never used a profiler, especially when we are talking about shift functions and many axis.
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I’ve re-abbreviated all the names and mapped things correctly in game and I am good to go. Thanks so much for the settings and the cheat sheets. Invaluable and well laid out. Now just need to get my freetrack 3-point clip built and I’ll be in bu
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Love your profile HardDeck - just wanted to chime in and say thanks!
One thing I keep doing - I fly all the way to my SEAD target, take out any radars with my AGM-88’s, then retrim the aircraft in mode 3.
forget to go back to mode one, ccrp , release cue , hold pickle and eject ! :headb:Copy that….did it twice and so I went in and got rid of the eject sequence in the Saitek profile. So now I can only eject using the keyboard! Man I felt stupid after doing that the first time…you can imagine how I felt after the 2nd time! doh!
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AWEOMSE SAUCE Profile Rocks!
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just got stalker/flounder’s x52 and got your profile running. awesome job, now i just have to learn where everything is again.
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lol this is insane… out of every flight sim I’ve seen they have all been a pita to get your controls right, but this game takes the cake. I have no idea what I’m doing, Im loading the profile, following the instructions, but it doesnt seem to be working.!!!
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lol this is insane… out of every flight sim I’ve seen they have all been a pita to get your controls right, but this game takes the cake. I have no idea what I’m doing, Im loading the profile, following the instructions, but it doesnt seem to be working.!!!
Given that it’s all based on pretty old technology/software/programming it’s not a surprise, I guess. But, yes, it can seem more difficult than necessary. Not to mention the Saitek software is no picnic to setup.
Anyway, I can assure you that if you’re following the instruction correctly, the profile does work as advertised …. I’ve used it ‘as is’.
Exactly what issues are you having?
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I had a great person last night help me for like 2 hours on TS3. He helped me get used to this game in general, learning how to start , fly and some weapons! great guy! But he flew with an xbox 360 controller, lol. in anycase, I need someone with an X-52 controller to possibly walk me through setting this up. Everytime I think I’m getting ahead, something is always wrong.
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I use a different profile for my X52 none pro.
What issues are you having at the moment?
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Gotta love it when someone comes here for help… then just vanishes
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Gotta love it when someone comes here for help… then just vanishes
Maybe they just got busy or real world stuff happened. Sometime that does occur.
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I like this profile for the most part, but I am not crazy about using the mini stick for radar. Is there a way to remap it? I don’t really understand using the keyfile, it seems to override the SST software?
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I like this profile for the most part, but I am not crazy about using the mini stick for radar. Is there a way to remap it? I don’t really understand using the keyfile, it seems to override the SST software?
SST software is just building a keyboard emulation model. The keyfile controls what a given key command does. In other words, SST ‘presses’ the key and the keyfile executes the command for that key. Therefore BOTH must be synchronized to each other.
Yes, you can remap the mini-stick …. just put in whatever keyfile key assignments you want.
Although, IMHO, you can get 99% of the functionality with 99% less trouble and 99% fewer headaches with a DX profile instead of a ‘keyboard emulation’ profile.
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This brings up a question. I just recently had my SST software stop “pressing” the keys. The keys themselves still work, and the SST software is running, but my computer doesn’t recognize the keybindings for some reason. It was working fine last week and then out of the blue it just stopped functioning normally.
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SST software is just building a keyboard emulation model. The keyfile controls what a given key command does. In other words, SST ‘presses’ the key and the keyfile executes the command for that key. Therefore BOTH must be synchronized to each other.
I have no idea what this means
Yes, you can remap the mini-stick …. just put in whatever keyfile key assignments you want.
Ok. How? Where? There is nothing in the SST profile and the key file might as well be written in Martian.
Little help……please
Although, IMHO, you can get 99% of the functionality with 99% less trouble and 99% fewer headaches with a DX profile instead of a ‘keyboard emulation’ profile.
For some reason every thing in this post makes me wonder if we are even speaking the same language…
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I have no idea what this means ……
Best I can do is start here.
Your Saitek profile (the one built by Hard~Deck) is basically a ‘keyboard emulator’ …. it makes your X52 ‘act’ like a keyboard. You push X52 button ‘1’, the profile ‘pushes’ the ‘G’ key on the keyboard … at least that is what it looks like to BMS … it emulates the keyboard.
Somewhere in the BMS key file there is a BMS command that tells the game what to do when ‘G’ is pressed on the keyboard. Let’s say that command is ‘cycle landing gear’.
Now here’s what happens when your Saitek profile and the BMS keyfile work together:
You want gear down, so you press your ‘Gear’ button, say it’s Button1, on your X52, the X52 profile ‘presses’ the ‘G’ key on the keyboard. BMS sees the ‘G’ pressed, looks that up in the keyfile and runs the command ‘cycle landing gear’ and your gear comes down.
It should be obvious that if you change the BMS keyfile assignment (i.e.in BMS re-assign ‘G’ from ‘gear cycle’ to ‘fire gun’, for example) that Button1 (your ‘gear’ button) on your X52 isn’t going to cycle gear anymore.
It should also be obvious that if your change your Button1 in the X52 profile from emulating a ‘G’ key press to emulating, for example, a ‘W’ key press that your gear is also NOT going to cycle with that button any longer. Whatever ‘W’ is assigned to in the keyfile will happen instead.
BOTH the Saitek profile AND the BMS Keyfile need to stay ‘synchronized’ so that Button1 emulates a ‘G’ keypress and the BMS keyfile cycles gear for a ‘G’ keypress. You can’t change one without effecting the behavior of the other.
(Button numbers, commands, ect. are for example only.)
Best thing to do is probably get on TeamSpeak with someone who has Hard~Deck’s profile (which is a very good profile … I’ve used ‘as is’ and it works fine) and can help you get set up and explain how the Saitek profile and the BMS setup work.
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Huh. That doesn’t really explain much, I mean the whole point of the SST software is to do exactly what you just described…hit a button, send a keystroke.
Whats the point of all this keyfiles stuff when the same functionality is already there?
And why are basic commands remapped? First tutorial i try I have to bail out because S doesnt change steerpoints anymore, and in the config it says Not Assigned.
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Huh. That doesn’t really explain much, I mean the whole point of the SST software is to do exactly what you just described…hit a button, send a keystroke.
Whats the point of all this keyfiles stuff when the same functionality is already there?
And why are basic commands remapped? First tutorial i try I have to bail out because S doesnt change steerpoints anymore, and in the config it says Not Assigned.
So you did understand it the first time ….
The keyfile translates the keystroke to a command in BMS; Saitek ‘pushes’ the key, the keyfile translates it. That’s “the point of all this keyfiles stuff” … the functionality is NOT ‘already there’.
Have you found yet how to do basic changes to the keyfile via the BMS–>SETUP–>CONTROLLER screen? If so, you’re re-mapping your current keyfile there; the references below are a more ‘advanced’ look at re-mapping the keyfiles. If not:
Why the key re-mapping occurred …. dunno … ask a dev. As they say, ‘it is what it is’ and that’s what we have to work with. I can tell you the file ‘keystrokes.key’ is more like the old Falcon keyboard commands. However, the file ‘BMS.key’ is better suited to HOTAS application. You can, of course, build your own to suit you.
If you do choose to change to an alternate keyfile (stock or custom) the Hard~Deck X52 profile will have to be changed to match … or scrapped and rebuilt.
Reference:
Keymaps for ‘keystroke.key’ and ‘BMS.key’ - C:\Falcon BMS 4.32\Docs\Falcon BMS Manuals
Explanation of keyfiles - C:\Falcon BMS 4.32\User\Joystick\Generic\Kolbe\Falcon BMS Keyfile Manual.pdf
Tools to build your own keyfile - C:\Falcon BMS 4.32\User\Joystick\Generic\Kolbe\BMS-Keyfile-Generator 1_6.xls