I'm not done with you yet, U8
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@Faman:
I’m still waitin for Update 8 to make major corrections to Falcon BMS 4.32.
1. The rudder must be fixed! Only the computer “thinks” roll occurs with yaw of the rudder. This makes no sense if you think about it in physics, natural or not. But with computer stupidty manipulatin the rudder with “roll” seems normal. It wasn’t normal 'till the computerworld became valid and people wanted to fly just like the machine and thought “roll” was neccesary with rudder. Well, you wouldn’t build a rudder on a plane’s tail with such useless movement you could rather do with a joystick and ailerons.2. The jet consumes much too much fuel on afterburner and you don’t last long on a fuel load in a dogfight using the afterburner.
3. How bout getting stuck on the same 600 knots at full afterburner while you just emptied your payload and are RTB. That should be on 600 knots with mil power and over 800 with afterburner.
Considering the weight and airfriction of the weapon pylons before and afterwards.Also the MFD’s work not seemlessly together with radar and weapons and are sensitive to error.
So BMS, still some work to do; even Falcon 4.0 did better on those points!
Waow ……
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@Faman:
Now hear this Fallow Falcon Fans, I have come to new enlightment without politics and religion…
I was discussin the rudder problem on another forum of the WW2 flightsim Cliffs of Dover and came to the followin conclusion:
Before the year 2000 Falcon 4.0 was realistic in a real world that still excisted. It seems only me can remember the excellent simulation of nose up drag on the runway after touchdown.
I tried and managed this in Falcon BMS but it simply said works like shit, don’t forget the so-called AoA of 13 degrees doesn’t make much of a difference.
Don’t forget you’re close to landing the bird on it’s tail and crash… I guess it’s meant for other industry called porm.The rudder SHOULD yaw only as this was realistic in the real world on planet earth before 2000. Later on you were fooled by the computerworld on a planet that doesn’t seem to excist.
The Fools adjusted this according to the rules and behaviour of the porm-industry. So in fact you’re a pilot on Planet Whorus!End you missed the nuclear war, WW3 was fought out already long time ago…
I’m so sorry, Mister President…More wow…
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Hi Faman, it’s a completely normal effect, that the ac will start rolling by using the rudder. I try to explain to you: Think about the aircraft is flying straight and the sorounding air flows steady around the aircraft. Now you step into your rudder, say left. While the rudders moves left, the airflow gets disturbed and the restistance gets bigger. Because that, the left side of the aircraft slows down and the right side is still on the same or even a higher speed than before. And even as a virtual Pilot you should know, that lift gets less, when speed decreases. So we have less speed and lift on the left side than on the right side. This effect is not that hard by rudder usage, but much stronger by using the ailerons. So I don’t know how big this effect effects the Viper but it exists.
Simply one term is helpful. Adverse yaw.
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@Faman:
I’m still waitin for Update 8 to make major corrections to Falcon BMS 4.32.
1. The rudder must be fixed! Only the computer “thinks” roll occurs with yaw of the rudder. This makes no sense if you think about it in physics, natural or not. But with computer stupidty manipulatin the rudder with “roll” seems normal. It wasn’t normal 'till the computerworld became valid and people wanted to fly just like the machine and thought “roll” was neccesary with rudder. Well, you wouldn’t build a rudder on a plane’s tail with such useless movement you could rather do with a joystick and ailerons.2. The jet consumes much too much fuel on afterburner and you don’t last long on a fuel load in a dogfight using the afterburner.
3. How bout getting stuck on the same 600 knots at full afterburner while you just emptied your payload and are RTB. That should be on 600 knots with mil power and over 800 with afterburner.
Considering the weight and airfriction of the weapon pylons before and afterwards.Also the MFD’s work not seemlessly together with radar and weapons and are sensitive to error.
So BMS, still some work to do; even Falcon 4.0 did better on those points!
Please moderators … create a “Funniest Posts room” and put this one in sticky.
@ Faman:
@Faman:
I’m still waitin for Update 8 to make major corrections to Falcon BMS 4.32.
Sorry mate, but you will have to wait for the Up8.
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@ Moderator: Please, stick also those one :
https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/showthread.php?19962-For-anyone-who-plays
… two of his threads locked already ! … Seems we have a “survivor superstar” here. I like him!
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So good to laugh a little here! It made my day!
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P.S.: time for a joke: “Chuck Norris’ private jet has no ailerons. He rolls his plane with rudder only.”
Jokes apart, do you know that this is possible on Mirage F1. During a back seat in 2003, the pilot (and it wasn’t Chuck!) made an entire 360° roll in low level only using the rudder (I was seeing his hands holding the canopy handles!) … true story!
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@Faman:
blablah FM needs fixing
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Like Lyndon Baines Johnson, we shall reply….
Damn! you’re all VC twisted. Don’t wear that black pyjama again not even when you’re a member of a cult in the USA.
Let me tell you about the good old world before the Vietnam UFO in 68-69 and I’m not trollin you. Afterwards the world became illusive just like the Matrix you’re livin in now. And you believe the illusion while you believe nothing.
Believe nothing as it is. Even a countin falcon will tell “believe in me, cause I don’t believe in anything”.Togather your replies in short; No I’m not a troll, I’m about true and real even in the illusion. The workin of the rudder in todays flightsims is a computer illusion and not how the brothers Wright and Lockheed Martin or Skunk Works meant or implemented natural physics. It’s even the collaboration of the socalled world girl between an “iron jaw” and a “show roll” as displayed in the Vietnam UFO incident. Chuck Norris could subscribe to the old Royal Flying CORPSE for THAT.
Cat I/III respondin, bite meat while you haven’t ate for quite a long while; Maybe plastic will do. The Soul can wait, we rest on soil and the alien Sol is gettin impatient with US.
No, you’re really gettin slow both on CAS, TAS and Mach. You all need afterburner in a dogfight! Spare me your DED display.
KorBI, you’re talkin senseless nonsense only the computer understand nothin less; maybe the guys respondin above you get it.So BMS guys, show me what you god or I rather refer you to Falcon 4.0 back in the good old days, not perfect bet more good and better then Falcon BMS 4.32.
Oh yea, I forgot point
4. Lousy flare brake on the runway, even Falcon 4.0 did much better then that.Or are you havin a better of best version on that side I don’t know of on this side. I don’t know THAT…
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Why you don’t just play the good old Falcon 4.0?
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So Faman, why are you flyin BMS?
Get back to the good old 4.0 and shut up -
Oooohhh it seems we have a highly graduated flight engineer !!! I’m soooooo proud.
BTW, before saying that things are not correct, you should check the flight manuals before.
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Gyro, is that you ?
On the off chance that you are not a troll, 2 things :
1 - read these articles, all of them, thoroughly. And then you can complain about the FM……
https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/content.php?45-documentation2 - comparaison effect of pure rudder in a REAL F-16 and in the sim (edit - busted by Amraam )
Convinced yet ?
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@Faman:
Like Lyndon Baines Johnson, we shall reply….
Damn! you’re all VC twisted. Don’t wear that black pyjama again not even when you’re a member of a cult in the USA.
Let me tell you about the good old world before the Vietnam UFO in 68-69 and I’m not trollin you. Afterwards the world became illusive just like the Matrix you’re livin in now. And you believe the illusion while you believe nothing.
Believe nothing as it is. Even a countin falcon will tell “believe in me, cause I don’t believe in anything”.Togather your replies in short; No I’m not a troll, I’m about true and real even in the illusion. The workin of the rudder in todays flightsims is a computer illusion and not how the brothers Wright and Lockheed Martin or Skunk Works meant or implemented natural physics. It’s even the collaboration of the socalled world girl between an “iron jaw” and a “show roll” as displayed in the Vietnam UFO incident. Chuck Norris could subscribe to the old Royal Flying CORPSE for THAT.
Cat I/III respondin, bite meat while you haven’t ate for quite a long while; Maybe plastic will do. The Soul can wait, we rest on soil and the alien Sol is gettin impatient with US.
No, you’re really gettin slow both on CAS, TAS and Mach. You all need afterburner in a dogfight! Spare me your DED display.
KorBI, you’re talkin senseless nonsense only the computer understand nothin less; maybe the guys respondin above you get it.So BMS guys, show me what you god or I rather refer you to Falcon 4.0 back in the good old days, not perfect bet more good and better then Falcon BMS 4.32.
Oh yea, I forgot point
4. Lousy flare brake on the runway, even Falcon 4.0 did much better then that.Or are you havin a better of best version on that side I don’t know of on this side. I don’t know THAT…
Im torn between chanting it or putting it to music…
On the off chance that you are not a troll
No, it really is trolling…
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Good point why I’m not flyin Falcon 4.0 anymore because those were good days back in '99, especially multiplayer was fun seein if there was someone online with ICQ and RogerWilco. I hate Teamspeak for that.
No I want all the good stuff of Falcon 4.0 implemented in the more simulator of Falcon BMS. Did you know 3DFX really looked good in those days? I guess Voodoo was not supported anymore.
I was also in an online dutch squad and later on with AF I tried Freebirds but that was already DED display, I think they were already becomin “screenies” in '99 often gettin lost in my reality. Sorry about that.For example I’m watchin YouTube videos about Falcon BMS with total unnatural head movement of Naturalpoint’s TrackIR and sometimes they showoff in movie screens too or on the other hand very ugly graphics.
But actually with these posts I’m tellin you something about the world we are “livin” in…
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See all that stuff is already implemented correctly in the original 1.08us patch, just fly on that and let us fly our unnatural HAWX like arcade game in peace…
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Gyro? … SkyKnight?!?
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OK, so its trolling or un-redeemable stupidity. I advise closing…. if not more.
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@Faman:
So BMS guys, show me what you god or I rather refer you to Falcon 4.0 back in the good old days, not perfect bet more good and better then Falcon BMS 4.32.
Oh yea, I forgot point
4. Lousy flare brake on the runway, even Falcon 4.0 did much better then that.Listen kitten, BMS has nothing to show you specifically. If you are not satisfied with what you have, un-install the 4.32 and go back to 4.0 … or DCS … or Pong.
Understand.
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OK, so its trolling or un-redeemable stupidity. I advise closing…. if not more.
If it was me … in the world we are living here, he would taste the 15G feeling of a “forum ejection seat” … because the shortest jokes are the better.
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If it was me … in the world we are living here, he would taste the 15G feeling of a “forum ejection seat” … because the shortest jokes are the better.
I guess this means permban…