BMS 4.34 Documents correction report
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BMS Training Manual
Mission 15: Inertially Aided Munitions
page 132 under GOAL:
SA-4 north of target.
The problem is that the in-game BMS TR_BMS_15_IAM mission does not show the SA-4 on the map nor does it show its threat circle.
Neither is it on the HSD. I clearly forgot about it after reading the documentation.
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So?
The sa-4 is mobile, that’s the reason why it doesn’t show on the map, and that there’s no PPT for it.
Secondly it’s not part of the mission goal, which is the column, but it’s listed as airdefense in the area.So I don’t see any problem with it - and certainly no error in the docs
the idea whit this was the same as the mig29 present in that TRN in the 4.33 version: teach the pilot not to loiter over the target area. do your job and get the hell out of Dodge.
in 4.33 if you stayed too long over the target area you’d be jumped by a flight of mig-29 but many complained that this was a training mission and it shouldn’t happen.
Of course if you did your job quickly and efficiently the migs would never catch you and back then I though it was a valuable lesson too (one I obviously couldn’t tell in the docs because that would have spoiled the effect)Listening to these complaints I removed the migs for the 4.34 revision, but a moving Sa-4 coming slowly into WEZ for these loitering puppies was my way of telling you guys, beware loitering over a target is never a good idea and if you do, stay on your toes, after all it’s a combat sim
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@Red:
So?
The sa-4 is mobile, that’s the reason why it doesn’t show on the map, and that there’s no PPT for it.
Secondly it’s not part of the mission goal, which is the column, but it’s listed as airdefense in the area.So I don’t see any problem with it - and certainly no error in the docs
the idea whit this was the same as the mig29 present in that TRN in the 4.33 version: teach the pilot not to loiter over the target area. do your job and get the hell out of Dodge.
in 4.33 if you stayed too long over the target area you’d be jumped by a flight of mig-29 but many complained that this was a training mission and it shouldn’t happen.
Of course if you did your job quickly and efficiently the migs would never catch you and back then I though it was a valuable lesson too (one I obviously couldn’t tell in the docs because that would have spoiled the effect)Listening to these complaints I removed the migs for the 4.34 revision, but a moving Sa-4 coming slowly into WEZ for these loitering puppies was my way of telling you guys, beware loitering over a target is never a good idea and if you do, stay on your toes, after all it’s a combat sim
Magnificent Red Dog! I expected that mobile air defenses would be shown on the map and HSD when I got used to practicing on Training Mission #12: AGM-88 HARMS which showed the mobile SA-4 and SA-6 on the map and HSD, but now I realize that Training Mission #12 was intended to teach the HTS avionics. I now see there is no problem with your docs in Training #15: Inertially Aided Munitions which stated that SA-4 was part of the air defense; this was a great way to demonstrate that the pilot should pay attention to the briefing. :shock: That SA-4 search radar appeared on my RWR as “L” and I wondered what that was. Then I found your documentation in the Dash-1 p42 section 1.2.3.5 ALR-56 RWR. The “L” is the symbol on the RWR of the Long Track search radar for SA-4. Your documentation helps make BMS Falcon great. Thanks again, RD.
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thanks mate, appreciate the comment.
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Don’t know if this has been reported already…very minor:
In KTO Charts -> North Korea, the Sondok_airport.png file contains a plate image that is labeled HYON-NI.
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using the random fault, i encoutered the next fault on my last mission :
The AutoPilot stoped working, switches was non operational.
Checked it later at the TO-BMS1F-16CM-1.pdf :
Maybe needs to be updated.
Cheers
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Minor typo
BMS Technical Manual (Change 0)
13.8 Other Options, page 162
g_nKnobAccelerationDelta
Use SimHsiCourseInc, SimHsiCourseInc, SimHsiCourseDec, SimHsiHeadingInc, SimHsiHeadingDec SimAltPressInc, SimAltPressDec, SimHsiCourseDec, SimHsiHeadingInc, SimHsiHeadingDec, SimAltPressInc SimAltPressDec “normal’ callbacks for acceleration to work, not the By1 callbacks.
SimHsiCourseInc and SimHsiCourseDec both mentioned twice and out of order.
Not the most important change but might as well mention it
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Hi Red Dog, overall wonderful manuals, I am especially impressed with how well-written the Comms-Nav book is. It is obvious that it is written by someone who both flies F4 and has a knack for teaching in the sense that you know what newcomers struggle with at first.
A small request, if I may: When reading the manuals the bookmarks help a lot to overview and navigate back to a topic, but unfortunately not all .pdf documents have bookmarks. For instance, the “BMS-Manual.pdf” has bookmarks, but the “BMS-Comms-Nav-book.pdf” does not. When you get around to it, could you please add bookmarks to the manuals that miss it? Besides the Comms-Nav book, they are absent from “TO-BMS1F-16CM-34-1-1.pdf” as well.
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Dash -1
pg. 32 TypoBMS Key Callbacks for the ALG GEAR handle
Should be ALT GEAR
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pg. 33
MAN - only programs 1 to 5 can be released manually by the pilot by using the CMS on the sidestick.
CMS forward releases whatever program is selected (1 to 4) through the PRGM knob. Program 5 can
also be released with the slap switch on the left side panel.This sentence seems a little misleading. Talking about CMS shouldn’t more clear to say that pilot can use program 1 to 4 with CMS forward and program 6 with CMS left (as reported also on the image on page 56)?
Hope i didn’t misunderstand
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BMS-Comm-Nav-book
page 14BLACK
Runway not usable for other reasons than ceiling and/or visibility minima.
Colour state “Black” precedes the current weather colour state.source: MILITARY AERONAUTICAL INFORMATION PUBLICATION GERMANY
found at: https://www.milais.org/publications.php
Regards Prot
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KTO Charts/Japan/Fukuoka Departure Toyota:
Header Row for APP/DEP:
‘297.2’ should be ‘279.2’Edit RD [Fixed]
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I’m doing the first training mission. I’m at the part of testing the EPU.The manual states:
To test proper EPU operation first cycle the EPU to OFF and back to NORM. With the mouse make sure you use a left-click to move it from NORM to OFF; a right-click would engage the EPU (now un-safed) which is to be avoided on the ground. The real reason is of no significance to us; hydrazine is extremely toxic.
I found that left clicking moves the EPU switch to on and left clicking moves the switch to off. I’ve done nothing to my mouse to make it behave inverted.
fwiw.
Edit RD [Fixed]This really confused me, coming as it does in Training, for people with little working knowledge yet and in a complex sequence (ramp start). If a lot of these fixes have already been made to the (current format) documentation, can they be posted somewhere please (unless I’ve missed it somewhere)?
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Training Manual.
Mission 17 IR Missiles
Page 153
Condition….“2 AIM-9M, 1AIM -9p”…
Page 160
17.4 The Mission
“You have 2 AIM-9M and 1 AIM-9P Sidewinders”In game you are given 3 AIM-9p
Loadout is fixedEdit RD [Already Fixed]
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Dash-1 page 20 (IFF Panel);
the following BMS Key Callbacks are listed on page 20, but do not appear in the BMS keyfile editor or keyfile:
SimIFFBackupM1Digit1_0(1,2,3,4,5,6,7)
SimIFFBackupM1Digit2_0(1,2,3)
SimIFFBackupM3Digit1_0(1,2,3,4,5,6,7)
SimIFFBackupM3Digit2_0(1,2,3,4,5,6,7)
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KTO Charts/South Korea/Kunsan/Kunsan_RDR_36.png:
Footer (bottom left):
‘ILS RWY 36’ should read ‘RADAR RWY 36’ to match HeaderEdit RD [Already Fixed]
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When are these fixes put in the manuals and what’s the best way to keep our manuals up to date?
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next 4.3X version.
3-4 weeks
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So, if I did a fresh install of 4.34 now i’d have to change all these fixes to the manuals myself?
Not complaining but just want the manuals up to date.
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Eh?
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Meh,
I already answered