BMS Other Fighters Mafia (BMSOFM) Journal
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@drtbkj You already have a thread here :
https://forum.falcon-bms.com/category/12/community-mods-tools
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@MaxWaldorf @Radium The essence of the discussion we’ve been having on the OFM Discord is that it would be better to post new and separate threads to highlight issues that we may have fixed in the OFM theaters, but you guys on the BMS team may not yet be aware of— instead of burying them in these mega-threads where they can get lost.
This is strictly related to items that are closer to actionable bug reports (e.g. auto-throttle not working in the F-18, missing hotspots preventing older jets from being ramp-startable, missing mirrors in the cockpit, misalignment with probe and drogue, etc.). If we’ve already implemented a fix, we will include it for your convenience, or at the very least a starting point if helpful.
The uptake of the Tornado cockpit fixes, or some of the issues recently highlighted with the Harrier are good examples of this. Other recent examples are:
https://forum.falcon-bms.com/topic/24349/av8-refuel-probe-fix
https://forum.falcon-bms.com/topic/24348/fixing-the-ef-18m-spanish-hornet
In other words, the important thing is that these will be in new threads— whether they should go in “Technical Support,” “Community Mods and Tools,” or some new sub-forum, I don’t think anyone really cares, so long as they are maximally visible and actionable.
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@Gadfly I kind of agree with the idea. But instead of creating a new forum, what if we use the existing forums inside “Community Mods and Tools” and prefix all the thread titles:
TO BMS DEVS: some subject
For example, in the Tornado case above, inside Community Mods and Tools -> Avionics and Flight Models:
TO BMS DEVS: Tornado Cockpit fixes.
Would something like that work?
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@Seifer said in BMS Other Fighters Mafia (BMSOFM) Journal:
@Gadfly I kind of agree with the idea. But instead of creating a new forum, what if we use the existing forums inside “Community Mods and Tools” and prefix all the thread titles:
TO BMS DEVS: some subject
For example, in the Tornado case above, inside Community Mods and Tools -> Avionics and Flight Models:
TO BMS DEVS: Tornado Cockpit fixes.
Would something like that work?
Hi, Seifer. As we talked about in our discussion, the whole idea is to facilitate the sharing of info to the Devs in a way that’s actionable. Max, that’s what I was asking. Whether it is Seifer’s suggested “Community Contribution” thread, an existing thread, or Discord, is fine with us.
What we want to avoid are 'mega-threads", where everything is jumbled together. We are having to deal with that even over in our Discord.
To quote Brother Gadfly " In other words, the important thing is that these will be in new threads— whether they should go in “Technical Support,” “Community Mods and Tools,” or some new sub-forum, I don’t think anyone really cares, so long as they are maximally visible and actionable."
And easily visible to the Devs. IMHO, somewhere in the Forum, and all in one place. makes sense. Also, we request that it be made a Stickee.
But again, the question is: what is the best way to share the info? -
@Seifer I’m personally totally fine with that, if using “Community Mods and Tools” and adding a “TO BMS DEVS:” prefix makes the posts easy to find for you guys on the team, and isn’t annoying to anyone!
We’ll discuss this around the OFM Discord. Obviously I can’t speak for everyone working on OFM projects, but it works for you guys, I can’t imagine major objections to making this S.O.P. Thanks!
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@Gadfly let’s try that and see if it works.
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@Seifer said in BMS Other Fighters Mafia (BMSOFM) Journal:
@Gadfly let’s try that and see if it works.
Sounds good , Seifer. One question, and let’s use Brother Dardo’s TGP post as an example. He posted in the “Hornet Improvements” thread. Does that work for the Devs, or should we make a separate “EF-18M TGP fix” (or whatever)thread. What is the best way for us to balance not making mega-treads with the fact that a one-time post will gradually go down the list?
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@drtbkj please create a new thread in theappropriate community mods forum, prefix the title with: TO BMS DEVS: f18 hornet xyz…
If we follow this pattern, I believe we will have progress.
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@Seifer Thanks Seifer. I’ve passed that along
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Good Day, All. Here is an U1 update. We spent yesterday looking at U1 as related to our Mafia stuff. We have the new F-18’s working in our db. Good news #1
Good news number 2 is that the BMS Devs did some really good work, especially with the F18E/F. Not only were they able to remove the spin behavior ,but they did it while retaining the autothrottle,etc… We saw how they did that, and are looking at ways to put it to work in jets like the F-35C. We are also looking at the Harrier.
Also, the Mafia continues work on the F-15E, and there may be more coming about the Tornado -
@drtbkj
If I may add, an advanced flight model for the Eurofighter Typhoon is also available and a refurbishment of Qawa’s Eurofighter Typhoon 3D cockpit from FF5 is also in the works and making good progress (with Qawa’s approval). -
@Scorpion82 said in BMS Other Fighters Mafia (BMSOFM) Journal:
@drtbkj
If I may add, an advanced flight model for the Eurofighter Typhoon is also available and a refurbishment of Qawa’s Eurofighter Typhoon 3D cockpit from FF5 is also in the works and making good progress (with Qawa’s approval).Scorpion, I haven’t had time to check the Eurofighter. Isn’t that included in the “stock”
4.37 KTO? It will be in ours -
Another update for new Member Dandywalken. Discord is not letting me make you a member. I’ve not had this happen before. Would you please repeat the “complaint to RR” process?
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@drtbkj said in BMS Other Fighters Mafia (BMSOFM) Journal:
@Scorpion82 said in BMS Other Fighters Mafia (BMSOFM) Journal:
@drtbkj
If I may add, an advanced flight model for the Eurofighter Typhoon is also available and a refurbishment of Qawa’s Eurofighter Typhoon 3D cockpit from FF5 is also in the works and making good progress (with Qawa’s approval).Scorpion, I haven’t had time to check the Eurofighter. Isn’t that included in the “stock”
4.37 KTO? It will be in oursNot the flight model and some other stuff isn’t included as well.
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@Scorpion82 said in BMS Other Fighters Mafia (BMSOFM) Journal:
@drtbkj said in BMS Other Fighters Mafia (BMSOFM) Journal:
@Scorpion82 said in BMS Other Fighters Mafia (BMSOFM) Journal:
@drtbkj
If I may add, an advanced flight model for the Eurofighter Typhoon is also available and a refurbishment of Qawa’s Eurofighter Typhoon 3D cockpit from FF5 is also in the works and making good progress (with Qawa’s approval).Scorpion, I haven’t had time to check the Eurofighter. Isn’t that included in the “stock”
4.37 KTO? It will be in oursNot the flight model and some other stuff isn’t included as well.
Thx, for the update. It will be in ours!
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Good Day, All. This is a proud day for us. The Mafia has passed the 100-member milestone!
Also, we are very close( as in possibly tomorrow) to start presenting our 4.37 Theaters. Unlike the 4.36 versions, which we’ve found work in 4.37, the new ones will reflect what we’ve learned so far from 37.
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@drtbkj woot! Was just playing. Ofm kto 4.36 last night wondering about this.
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@Cpt_Communist said in BMS Other Fighters Mafia (BMSOFM) Journal:
@drtbkj woot! Was just playing. Ofm kto 4.36 last night wondering about this.
Hi, Cpt. They are coming…