Can you Slave the HTS?
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Sorry, the topic should have read can you slave the TGP to the HTS.
I remember when they F-16s starting carrying the Sniper TGP and the HTS that there was talk about using the HTS to cue the sniper pod to get a visual on an emitting target. Is this something that is implemented in BMS?
I watched Krause’s tutorial on using the HTS to bomb an emitting target, but this was done visually.
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Not in BMS, and I dont think so for the real jet. Not sure on that one.
The HTS is not as precise in BMS as it can be in the real world.
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If you can make a designation from the HTS you should be able to slave the TGP to the designation…but I’m guessing, as I haven’t toyed with HARMs in BMS much as of yet.
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If you can make a designation from the HTS you should be able to slave the TGP to the designation…but I’m guessing, as I haven’t toyed with HARMs in BMS much as of yet.
Yes. You’re not really slaving it. You’re handing off a threat on your HAD which I guess you could say it slaves the TGP to this threat. By changing this your TGP will now be looking at this new point. You do have to CZ because the slews you induced on your previous point will still be in the system so you will be looking some delta off the new steerpoint/threat.
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Thanks for the info!
Make sense. The HAD doesn’t provide much location data - no long/lat. Maybe I can look in the general area with the HMD and slew the TGP. I’ll play around with it. Still, I am amazed at how much the functions of the F-16 was replicated.
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Yes indeed the HTS isn’t accurate enough to provide accurate positional data. AFAIK in RL they are using triangulation with a couple of HTS pods in order to find the exact position of the threat and hand it off to other sensors.
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Yes indeed the HTS isn’t accurate enough to provide accurate positional data. AFAIK in RL they are using triangulation with a couple of HTS pods in order to find the exact position of the threat and hand it off to other sensors.
Interesting…Are they sharing data then the fire control computer processes the target info or is it being off loaded to Rivet Joint and then being sent back with more precise data?
There must be an SOP with regard to using the Sniper with the HTS. Otherwise why would they carry them in tandem so frequently. It would seem that the Sniper would help in a couple of ways:
1. Target identification.
2. Battle Damage Assessment
3. DEAD - once the emitter if turned off you could follow up with a CBU or JDAM. Kind of the like the hunter-killer teams of F-4Es and F-4Gs at Spang. I believe Dan Hampton mentioned F-16 wild weasel hunter-killer teams during Iraqi Freedom. -
I am not sure if I am understanding you. So I am putting a steerpoint on the HAD on the emitter? Then I go to the FCR and try to pick out the target?
Thanks!
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Wow, technically , you could send a harm and couple jsow154a for a good measure , just selecting an emitter on hts …
is that it ?WF
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Thanks for finding that. I believe the capability was mentioned in Aviation Week and Space Technology. When I first heard about it I thought about using a JSOW for DEAD, but I think you need a munition that has a shorter flight time - get the emitter before he can fire off a missile and get you. It would also help to be closer to the target than with the HARM - CBU-103 or GBU-38. I’d like to see this capability included in a future upgrade.
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Thanks for finding that. I believe the capability was mentioned in Aviation Week and Space Technology. When I first heard about it I thought about using a JSOW for DEAD, but I think you need a munition that has a shorter flight time - get the emitter before he can fire off a missile and get you. It would also help to be closer to the target than with the HARM - CBU-103 or GBU-38. I’d like to see this capability included in a future upgrade.
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Yes this is known as PT Ranging. It’s initiated with a long TMS left. One pod is designated the PT Master and the other pods (depending on if they are team members or set to TM/AL then become PT slaves). However, you need L16 to execute this. The pods also have Angle-Angle Ranging as well.
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Yes. You’re not really slaving it. You’re handing off a threat on your HAD which I guess you could say it slaves the TGP to this threat. By changing this your TGP will now be looking at this new point. You do have to CZ because the slews you induced on your previous point will still be in the system so you will be looking some delta off the new steerpoint/threat.
Out of curiosity, why is the CZ (or rather delta removal) not automatic when changing spi? I’m still learning and have a long way to go, but I don’t understand the benefits of the slew/delta/offset not being being left in when changing SPI/STPT…
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Out of curiosity, why is the CZ (or rather delta removal) not automatic when changing spi? I’m still learning and have a long way to go, but I don’t understand the benefits of the slew/delta/offset not being being left in when changing SPI/STPT…
If e.g you create some A-G pattern that requires sync between a couple of STPTs, then you would like all STPTs to have the same offset if you slew the target STPT a bit.
Besides, what would be the benefit of having the system do a CZ press for you? AFAIK (and I guess RL pilots here can confirm) CZ is in the checklists after an A-G attack has ended, so it’s just another small OSB press that the pilot need to do, among many other things. After you get used to it, it’s never forgotten.
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If e.g you create some A-G pattern that requires sync between a couple of STPTs, then you would like all STPTs to have the same offset if you slew the target STPT a bit.
Besides, what would be the benefit of having the system do a CZ press for you? AFAIK (and I guess RL pilots here can confirm) CZ is in the checklists after an A-G attack has ended, so it’s just another small OSB press that the pilot need to do, among many other things. After you get used to it, it’s never forgotten.
Yes this is correct. They’re commonly called TGP CAPs: TMS AFT, Cursor Zero, Wide FOV.
It’s actually not an OSB press but a double TMS AFT that will CZ for you. All hands on.
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Yes this is correct. They’re commonly called TGP CAPs: TMS AFT, Cursor Zero, Wide FOV.
It’s actually not an OSB press but a double TMS AFT that will CZ for you. All hands on.
Awesome, that’s good to know. I was pressing TMS aft, going to FOV wide, then pressing the illuminated CZ OSB. Knowing the TMS Aft x2 will do the same is very useful, thanks.
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Knowing the TMS Aft x2 will do the same is very useful, thanks.
But rrrr… it won’t work in BMS because not implemented…
I’ll add it sometime.
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But rrrr… it won’t work in BMS because not implemented…
I’ll add it sometime.
In that case, I’ll stick it on a mental post it note and remember it for 4.33.2 etc Cheers!
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In that case, I’ll stick it on a mental post it note and remember it for 4.33.2 etc Cheers!
I don’t know if 4.33.2, it depends, if not then only in the release that will come afterwards.
But first I need to code it, so for now it’s nowhere, actually :mrgreen: