@nhojj13:

hey any chance you know were i could get the software for the x45 thanks

ftp://ftp.saitek.com/pub/software

ambrzyk I just need a guide as where to start. I have tried to find where to start but no success. I dont want to change things until i know where and what to change.

Lesson learned!

Edit files are available on thingiverse first post updated

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4757309

If you use default key file its ALT+C F so precise ALT+C release then press F.
ALT+C is the socalled modifier combo
other combos are Alt+C P for toggle pilot model in 3d pit, Allt+C O onlne status in Multiplayer Alt+C J recenter Joystick to name the usefull ones

@FlyData:

OK, I re-installed BMS and the SST software and now everything is working as expected. I haven’t flown, but tried everything I could on the ramp and all the normal and shifted keys worked as expected. Must have gotten a corrupt file somewhere along the way. Thanks for the suggestions.

Glad you got it sorted out! I assume this isn’t the button getting physically stuck in it’s travel, or you’d have figured that out already. Wish you didn’t have to go to such extreme steps, I’d imagine STT software might have been to blame; it’s really bad and hasn’t gotten much better over the years, either.

I was gonna say that (if you’re following my step-by-step instructions) in Step 4, disabling ‘Clutch’ mode disallows latched clutch, but this feature refers specifically to the “i” button on the throttle and would not come into play for Pinky Button or Shifting issues. I’m fortunate to have a laptop to use as a test subject, even runs Win 7 as opposed to my PC here, and I always try to run through any steps I’d ask of folks who DL stuff I make to be sure I didn’t miss anything, but I really think this was some program issue since reinstallation fixed it.

If it happens again, be sure to post up. Best wishes and good luck to you!

The X-55 it’s usable for X-56, so you can try it 😉

The pickle button on my X65F makes problems and I want to replace it. I already tried to open the stick, but I couldn’t access the button and it was difficult to get everything back in place.

Do you know how to open the stick (and get everything back in place afterwards)?

@drtbkj:

Hi, Sungad,
Last November my 65 died, and also the pickle button was also acting up as your’s is. Before I decided on a new HOTAS,I took the 65 apart and didn’t see any problems as in loose connection(s) on the pickle button. So, if your problem may be the switch itself.Also, your “solution” may in fact be the SOLUTION. I do remember, from time to time, the 65 sometimes being wonky on the timing of certain commands. So, in fact you may not have a hardware problem.
However,I looked back through my notes and found this- https://www.reddit.com/r/hotas/comments/6a94pi/how_to_replace_the_pickle_button_on_a_saitek_x65f/ . I never pursued this, as by then the new HOTAS was on the way, but I hope it helps.

The problem is no longer unintended weapon releases, but releasing too late (or not at all), because the button doesn’t stay on for long enough (again, about 1 in 10 presses, but firing 2 s late can kill you).
I tried to open the stick and noticed that I can’t access the pickle pushbutton and that it isn’t easy to get everything back in place.

Replacing the pushbutton isn’t an option, unless there is a disassembly/reassembly guide somewhere. If you know of one, please let me know.
If the problem becomes unbearable, the alternative would be mounting an additional button next to the existing pickle button, but how do I turn a contact/no contact switch into a joystick?

@lfortanet:

Yes, as it says oakdesign, the problem is in the times of pressing and releasing the keys, you have to configure it.

The easiest way to solve the problem is in the Logitech program settings. On each axis, you must place the correct times on each press and release of the keys.
You can see in the image how to do it on one axis, and you can play with that configuration, also you can change the times more or less like you want … that’s how it is on the rest too.

Helped more than one friend set up the Bands method over the past ten years, and I’ve found that most PC’s cannot tolerate a delay lower than 0.040 (or 40ms) – I use the Bands method myself for X52 Pro ministick as Radar Cursor, and set these delays to 50ms (0.050) which is more than fast enough, and also slow enough for Windows/DX input to register every time. IIRC If you click on the time, you can manually set it to anything you want.

i do but no change about the slider Modes.
i have deleted all drivers with CMD: SET DEVMGR_SHOW_NONPRESENT_DEVICES=1 then devmgmt.msc and delete all old drivers in the device Manager.
No change for the slider, it didn’t able to have a DX entry.

@Apancho:

Thanks for the suggestion. I don’t think it’s a regular configuration issue. The rotary axis are mapping to the correct functions. Also, the “properties” setup of the device shows a smooth slide. It’s just that the rotaries are acting as on/off in BMS instead of actually working like an axis. The travel is not working, I can’t get them to stay in the middle of the band…

Wanted to verify that you set your axes in THIS screen, under Setup > Controller > Advanced > Avionics Control
Might be redundant to ask, just troubleshooting…
Falcon Alternative Launcher is very cool, but is not really needed for this kind of thing, especially if you’ve already taken the time to get a working DX profile setup. After that, you should be able to map your axes on this screen:

Hi,

After 13 years, I have just reinstalled this. I would like to be able to use the profile I used when I was flying Falcon regularly, but Saitek utilised those in a .dat format, and they now use a .pro format.

Couple of questions:

Can the .dat be converted into a .pro file? I’ve googled this and can’t find a response.
I can’t see any way of utilising an external profile in BMS. I see several preset profiles, but no option to import my own.

I’d appreciate any help.

Thanks,

Neo

who is have one ?

I found this line in a different forum:
Got it working by using the saitek programming software to change the knobs’ function to ‘axis’

The thread is here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/hoggit/comments/e9ml2t/x56_dcs_not_recognizing_throttle_rotary_knob_axis/

Thank You, The input is way behind and when you correct you have no idea what you are correcting. Unflyable. I also have Allied Force and it is okay there. Let me know how we can hook up and talk. I do have TS3 loaded but have not used it yet. I’m getting back into Falcon. Use to be in 38th in Allied Force.

Thanks,

Richard

If you are gonna build your own IR track clip I only can recommend to use OSRAM SHF485P IR Diodes. Use those on mine as the have a beam angle of 80°.

http://myfreetrackheadset.blogspot.com/2010/09/headset-for-freetrack-trackir-track.html?m=1

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@oakdesign:

If you are using the registry fix you still need a Logitech Profile loaded through the Logitech Profie software which is basically empty but has the ministick X and Y set to unnassigned.
And your screenshot is not available maybe upload it directly to the forum attachments

I have set the ministick X and Y to unassigned in the Logitech software. Screenshot: https://ibb.co/V9gnvwV
Here’s a video of the almost unresponsive Y axis: https://streamable.com/k9ie26
These are the Registry modifications I have used (I checked that the ID is the right one, 0762):

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\MediaProperties\PrivateProperties\Joystick\OEM\VID_06A3&PID_0762] "OEMName"="Saitek X52 Pro Flight Controller" "ConfigCLSID"="{A1902D8A-F8C8-483b-A5E3-D4FCB47CB264}" "OEMData"=hex:03,00,88,11,27,00,00,00 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\MediaProperties\PrivateProperties\Joystick\OEM\VID_06A3&PID_0762\Axes] [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\MediaProperties\PrivateProperties\Joystick\OEM\VID_06A3&PID_0762\Axes\0] @="X" "Attributes"=hex:01,81,00,00,01,00,30,00 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\MediaProperties\PrivateProperties\Joystick\OEM\VID_06A3&PID_0762\Axes\1] @="Y" "Attributes"=hex:01,81,00,00,01,00,31,00 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\MediaProperties\PrivateProperties\Joystick\OEM\VID_06A3&PID_0762\Axes\2] @="Throttle" "Attributes"=hex:01,81,00,00,01,00,32,00 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\MediaProperties\PrivateProperties\Joystick\OEM\VID_06A3&PID_0762\Axes\3] @="Rotary 1" "Attributes"=hex:01,81,00,00,01,00,33,00 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\MediaProperties\PrivateProperties\Joystick\OEM\VID_06A3&PID_0762\Axes\4] @="Rotary 2" "Attributes"=hex:01,81,00,00,01,00,34,00 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\MediaProperties\PrivateProperties\Joystick\OEM\VID_06A3&PID_0762\Axes\5] @="MiniStick Y" "Attributes"=hex:01,81,00,00,05,00,26,00 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\MediaProperties\PrivateProperties\Joystick\OEM\VID_06A3&PID_0762\Axes\6] @="Precision slide" "Attributes"=hex:01,81,00,00,01,00,36,00 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\MediaProperties\PrivateProperties\Joystick\OEM\VID_06A3&PID_0762\Axes\7] @="MiniStick X" "Attributes"=hex:01,81,00,00,05,00,24,00 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\MediaProperties\PrivateProperties\Joystick\OEM\VID_06A3&PID_0762\Axes\8] @="Rudder" "Attributes"=hex:01,81,00,00,01,00,35,00

I have also disabled the Ministick “Mouse” in Windows (in the device manager), because it was annoying. There was no change with or without it in regards to the Y axis.
What else could I try?

FIXED IT

I have managed to fix this.

Install the official drivers (I have a Logitech one, so I used their latest drivers).
Then I disabled (unmapped) all the buttons in the Logitech software. The important thing is to hit the small blue crosshair button next to the “Views” button. That’s the button for actually loading/applying your profile. The icon in the taskbar should turn green and your MFD display should display your profile.
Then I applied Agave_Blue’s registry fix from here.
Then I assigned the X and Y axes in Falcon BMS.
Everything works now.

I used the X52 until a few month before switching to a X65F on W10. Currently not on my PC but I have for sure still the driver and SST software I used on my machine.
Will look up later

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(ppssstt… please don’t shout it out loud with that uppercase writing, I don’t think he’s deaf :lol:
With best hush hush regards.)