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Well there are public sources that detail the way it works (principles, method of operation, technology used) quite well. I guess you need sources that describe how it works (avionics wise, how to use it) in the jet then?
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there are no public documents with detailed L-16 info.
Well, MLU M1 / M2 / M3 tape manuals are out there quite some years now, and M3 has everything one might need to start.
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Well, MLU M1 / M2 / M3 tape manuals are out there quite some years now, and M3 has everything one might need to start.
Yes well, I guess I just forgot the M3
So I have no more excuses :mrgreen:
But TBH Iâm taking a kinda change in direction now, trying to do something different than avionics (but not less important!), but Iâll start to look at the stuff slowly, itâll take sometime anyway
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Many ppl are requesting L16 implementation, but most of them do even not know how to share a mark point with their wingmen with current IDM
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Many ppl are requesting L16 implementation, but most of them do even not know how to share a mark point with their wingmen with current IDM
Well sure, but thats a bad metric⌠most of them do not know how to share a contact with the L16 MIDS either.
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Many ppl are requesting L16 implementation, but most of them do even not know how to share a mark point with their wingmen with current IDM
Well sure, but thats a bad metric⌠most of them do not know how to share a contact with the L16 MIDS either.
ufffâŚ
/me going back to RTFM :mrgreen:
But seriously speaking, yes I can understand exactly why L-16 is needed, itâs so much better to manage AIM-120 shots for example when you know which targets already fired upon by your flightâŚ
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/me going back to RTFM :mrgreen:
But seriously speaking, yes I can understand exactly why L-16 is needed, itâs so much better to manage AIM-120 shots for example when you know which targets already fired upon by your flightâŚ
Well no, that isnt needed. IIRC the AIM-120C is designed to auto sort itself into formations. For formations that are outside a single radar resolution cell, you should have been able to see which contact your flight members had bugged just using the IDM.
Not that Im suggesting we shouldnât have Link-16âŚ! In honesty Im currently thinking through what it would look like if implemented the way I would like to see it - what UI screens would be needed, how would AI need to react to unknown contacts, etcâŚ
Interesting thought experiment
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@Red:
Thatâs not a bad idea at all. and you could even push that further a bit, like display aircraft labels in UI (or Awacs screen only for those having the stuff enabled on the CNI page
Thatâs what I also mentioned here. Just having M3 in sharedmem for ATC (F4Awacs) would already be very nice feature and I think not major PITA for devs since itâs already in eye candy on the DED.
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Just having M3 in sharedmem for ATC (F4Awacs) would already be very nice feature and I think not major PITA for devs since itâs already in eye candy on the DED.
Comm frequencies first, please. I canât believe these arenât already in there.
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Many ppl are requesting L16 implementation, but most of them do even not know how to share a mark point with their wingmen with current IDM
And most of them do only Dfâs so BMS should remove other features?
Features are there so ppl to use them if and whenever they want.
If they donât know how or they donât have the will itâs their problem.
I believe BMS mission is to simulate the âthingâ the best way they can.
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Comm frequencies first, please. I canât believe these arenât already in there.
Why would you want that?? ATC doesnât know either on what freq the airplanes are?
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Why would you want that?? ATC doesnât know either on what freq the airplanes are?
Because currently thereâs no way to read it out of the game?
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Because currently thereâs no way to read it out of the game?
Again, why would you need that? Itâs on the DED and that can be extracted, if itâs for the pit. ATC doesnât know airborne assets currently tuned freq either IRL, so useless for that purpose either. Otherwise I wouldnât know what for it could be useful to have that?
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Again, why would you need that? Itâs on the DED and that can be extracted, if itâs for the pit. ATC doesnât know airborne assets currently tuned freq either IRL, so useless for that purpose either. Otherwise I wouldnât know what for it could be useful to have that?
Lots of reasons if you have some imagination.
The problem with extracting off the DED is, what happens when the DED screen swaps?
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Lots of reasons if you have some imagination.
Please share some, I seem to lack imagination at this pointâŚ
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Again, why would you need that? Itâs on the DED and that can be extracted, if itâs for the pit. ATC doesnât know airborne assets currently tuned freq either IRL, so useless for that purpose either. Otherwise I wouldnât know what for it could be useful to have that?
Actually as long as we are discussing link 16, if the tower can read J series messages on the subnet they CAN tell what voice frequency airborne assets are on.
Please share some, I seem to lack imagination at this pointâŚ
Hypothetically speaking if you wanted to add any kind of radio mod, knowing what frequency is tuned would be a must right thereâŚ.
of course IVC is so perfect that no one would ever want to mess around with making their own radio mod, right?
âŚyeah, I couldnt keep a straight face either! XD
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Please share some, I seem to lack imagination at this pointâŚ
People in the know, know why I want it. Thatâs good enough for me.
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People in the know, know why I want it. Thatâs good enough for me.
Come on dude, thatâs lame
First publicly stating itâs understandable a feature is not there, but unable to publicly share at least one utilisation of that missing feature?Only thing remotely related to freqs I can think of is the status of the set manual freq on the uhf backup panel. However, that is not comm freq in shared mem as you mentioned but only a state of 5 rotary switches that can differ from the actual current comm freq the pilot is on.
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Pointless, just use guard 243.00 and lead them to a common frequency
Counter argument to Asharpe. pilots must also need to change frequency without anyone knowing about it.
smart pilots listen to both the active freq and guard, so if they need to be dragged to a common freq for whatever reason guard is the answer (not preset called guard, the real guard) -
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Pointless, just use guard 243.00 and lead them to a common frequency
Counter argument to Asharpe. pilots must also need to change frequency without anyone knowing about it.
smart pilots listen to both the active freq and guard, so if they need to be dragged to a common freq for whatever reason guard is the answer (not preset called guard, the real guard)whats pointless?? Im lostâŚ.