Ramp start?
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I didn’t think the SEC light would be such a problem. I just meant it as visible feedback in the process.
The idle detent clickzone (or alt-i for the callback, it’s the same result) will change which side of the OFF-IDLE fence the throttle is on. However when the idle detent command is pressed the software looks what is the placement of the throttle axis. Depending on the current condition it will change state or not. This is why you place the throttle axis first and then submit the command by activating the idle detent command.
Throttle OFF
If throttle is near idle when idle detent is triggered -> Remain OFF
If throttle is advanced when idle detent is triggered -> Switch to ONThrottle ON (working range)
If throttle is near idle when idle detent is triggered -> Switch to OFF
If throttle is advanced when idle detent is triggered -> Remain ONSimple?
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Your choices boil down to …. 1.) Do it the exact proper RL F16 way and maybe get a bad result in BMS, 2.) Do it in a way that works for BMS but maybe isn’t RL perfect, or 3.) Build a pit with a RL TQS and a RL Idle-Detent and map BMS commands accordingly.
(No guarantee on BMS compatibility for #3).
It works fine, incidentally. You set the Idle Cutoff option in the BMS configuration, and set the IDLE part of the axis to just aft of the IDLE position on your throttle. Throttle up after JFS spools up then just consists of lifting the throttle over the detent, and dropping it into IDLE. Much easier than fluffing around with all these Alt + Is and Idle Detent button presses and mouse clicks…
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It works fine, incidentally. You set the Idle Cutoff option in the BMS configuration, and set the IDLE part of the axis to just aft of the IDLE position on your throttle. Throttle up after JFS spools up then just consists of lifting the throttle over the detent, and dropping it into IDLE. Much easier than fluffing around with all these Alt + Is and Idle Detent button presses and mouse clicks…
But it’s not the same as Real. I may have to quit until I can do this: [
]( )Nothing else is real enough anymore. It ruins the “immersion”. It’s almost as bad as the mobile ringing mid-bomb run.
Ahhhh Gawd!!! It just hit me. It doesn’t matter what I do. BMS …. Is. Not. Real. I’m crushed.
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Actually, that was the kind of thing I was advocating. You said, build a pit with RL gear, but that you had no guarantee on BMS being able to make sense of it. Well, its been done (not by me sadly!). And it works with BMS.
Incidentally - his throttle rail works incorrectly
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How many real world pilots short cut it?
Depending on many factors, many RL pilots cut some of the steps or do them differently. If their first jet went down to maintenance problems they might cut some checks. (except the EPU check, that one always gets done) I have seen pilots do a Sec check and check the EPU at the same time while moving the flight controls or bit checking them, etc.
@Blu3wolf:Incidentally - his throttle rail works incorrectly
How so?
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How so?
His throttle can be pushed from OFF to IDLE. I am fairly certain that you should need to rotate the throttle grip outboard to move it from OFF to IDLE. Going from IDLE to OFF should require the cutoff release to be actuated to be able to rotate the throttle outboard. OFF to IDLE should not need the cutoff release.
His video depicts the throttle being moved straight forward from OFF to IDLE, without any rotation of the grip required.
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Ok, lol We should provide a 70FI so he can properly inspect it.:rolleyes:
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I understand you have quite a bit more firsthand F-16 experience than my none, so if I am in error, I would be quite happy to hear it! Was this behavior not the case on the aircraft you worked?
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You are 100% correct on the RL behavior. The throttle in the video has all the needed functionality and is more than adequate I think, just saying.
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In fairness, so is a stock cougar throttle. That has all the functionality you need. It doesnt have all that which I want, though.
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His throttle can be pushed from OFF to IDLE. I am fairly certain that you should need to rotate the throttle grip outboard to move it from OFF to IDLE. Going from IDLE to OFF should require the cutoff release to be actuated to be able to rotate the throttle outboard. OFF to IDLE should not need the cutoff release.
His video depicts the throttle being moved straight forward from OFF to IDLE, without any rotation of the grip required.
You’re harshing my buzz, dude.
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…is harshing a word?
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The AIR SCOURCE knob found on the AIR CONT panel is on the left side under the arm rest. You can get the click sticky through the arm rest, just right click it once to set to NORM.
Hope this helps
I thought the air source knob was on the right (at least in the MLU). Eng feed knob is on the left. I could be mistaken though.
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I thought the air source knob was on the right (at least in the MLU). Eng feed knob is on the left. I could be mistaken though.
Left, Right … so picky :rolleyes: Yes you are correct it’s on the Right. Never trust me to give directions
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Left, Right … so picky :rolleyes: Yes you are correct it’s on the Right. Never trust me to give directions
Tiffy 52 - Lead 51 “No visual”
Lead 51 - Tiffy 52 “I’m 12 o’clock close”
Tiffy 52 - Lead 51 “Damn neck rest, I can’t see anything”
… will say turn around in your seat, so you see the HUD in front of you.
Cheers,
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Left, Right … so picky :rolleyes: Yes you are correct it’s on the Right. Never trust me to give directions
Sorry, can’t help it Or maybe you have one of those rare British F-16s? Right is left etc?