Feedback BMS-Training.pdf
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This feedback has to do with the Training.pdf and the Dash-1. Both say the best method to get to AAR Pre-contact, but give different advice.
Training.pdf p52.–-The best method to get that position correctly is to use the gun cross and the boom.
Dash-1 p154.–-----The best method to get that position correctly is to use the FPM and the boom.Which one is best of the best?
Edit RD: corrected in next version of dash1. Training is correct with guncross
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jc1- Guncross has been stated in my readings as the initial boom location. Your fPM will fluctuate with speed and wind, where the cross is stable. It may keep you from having to abort too; as it is usually higher than the FPM which might keep you from having the boom strike your canopy…
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So I’ve got a question re: where you want to have someone park & shut down once they land. When should it be on the ramp, when should it be in the parking area, and if there are multiple parking areas which one? I.E. TE6 where im comming in on Taegu, I don’t normally run thru Taegu and I see there are two parking areas alpha & bravo, HAS on the North taxiway and anti-blast structures on the South taxiway, and a maintenance lot. Where do I want to park since the Valet is off duty?
But nicely done. Can’t wait for the NOTAMs to start.
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Take it back to the HAS and let the crew chief worry about it.
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Mission 5: Air to Air Refuel
Section 5.1 reads “The AWACS menu is opened with the ‘a’ key”
It’s the “q” key on mine??
By the way, the re-worked training missions and documentation are AWESOME!!!
RBG
Edit RD: added in next version - it’s actually dependant on installed keyboard
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Just a suggestion based on observation. Many fliers on other forums are confused by the discrepancies between HUD symbology in the pictures in the training manuals and what actually appears in their HUD during the mission. Pictures depict newer avionics while the training missions utilize older Blocks with the older HUD symbology. Many people are mistaking this for a bug or error.
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Page 98 of the training manual (as well as the green marking in the diagram on page 97) states: “Meterstick is the distance from the centre of the TGP cross to one of its ends.”.
However page 90 of the -34 states: “the meterstick (cross-hair) which is the length in meters of each line of the cross-hair.”
In accordance with the real jet the -34 has it correct (i.e. it is the length of the line only, not from the center of the cross to the end of the line)
Additionally, the picture on page 98 of the training manual indicates in green that the meterstick works in the vertical as well. This is incorrect (unless you are at just the right angle), the meterstick is only accurate in the horizontal plane (because the grazing angle differes based on altitude, slant range etc. Imagine for example looking at a target really far away from a really low altitude. No way the vertical line will be indicating the same distance as the horizontal one). It is also most accurate near the center of the TGP FOV. Lastly, these images are in a point track which is also not recommended because the point tracker box may block/shrink the cross hairs and as such make it harder to interpret the meterstick unless a very small target is being tracked.
Edit RD: added in next version
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Because I’m reading the manuals since 1998, and I know how to read across them.
A newbie might be confused if he reads the 1rst sweep, following step by step,
rotating the knobs to set backup radio frequency, to get the result as shown
in the pictures of the manual, but will fail to see any numbers as long as there is no power.Oliver has already pointed out it is not an error, it’s by design.
So for me personally it’s fine.LS
With all respect to the authors of the manual and heartfelt thanks for their hard work - I have to side with LS on this one.
If one is a newbie like me following the training manual, it is a bit confusing at first to be instructed to tune the radio (when the frequency digits are not displayed), push buttons on the UFC and look for output on the DED, when there is no power applied and thus nothing displayed on the DED as the illustrations show.Here are the relevant instructions. For context, the main power switch at this point is off. It gets turned to “batt” at the start of the next sweep.
I read a few steps ahead, realized it was just an error in the manual, and continued on without incident.
However, there’s no question in my mind that it is an error in the manual.Please don’t take this as a complaint. I’m just trying to help 4.33 be all it can be.
I’m one of those guys who push all the buttons and do all the checks whether the check is required to get the jet in the air or not.
I think it’s a reasonable compromise to designate non essential steps as “eye candy” or “not required in 4.33” or something like that.Great work guys. I thank you for it.
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When reading the HARM training mission guide I didn’t find an explanation for the shortcut PET which is mentioned on Page 107.
after searching the internet I found that this means “preemtive targeting” - maybe this could be added to the guide since all the other shortcuts are explained.Edit RD: added in next version
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Ok let me start by saying, I still consider myself a noob, but I think there is an error in the training manual under the TFR tutorial. When performing checks the manual says to bank past 60 degrees for longer than 2 seconds and confirm a yellow TFR limit box appears in the mfds. This doesn’t start happening until I hold a bank angle closer to 90 degrees. I apologise if I have misunderstood.
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With all respect to the authors of the manual and heartfelt thanks for their hard work - I have to side with LS on this one.
If one is a newbie like me following the training manual, it is a bit confusing at first to be instructed to tune the radio (when the frequency digits are not displayed), push buttons on the UFC and look for output on the DED, when there is no power applied and thus nothing displayed on the DED as the illustrations show.Here are the relevant instructions. For context, the main power switch at this point is off. It gets turned to “batt” at the start of the next sweep.
I read a few steps ahead, realized it was just an error in the manual, and continued on without incident.
However, there’s no question in my mind that it is an error in the manual.I think the problem with this section is the “now you can set…” wording. If that were something like “when the switch is in the mnl position you can set…” Or some other indication that you cant do what it syas you can do “now” until the power is on.
And to echo the other comments, these are great manuals and essential for a sim this complex. Big thanks to Red Dog for authoring!
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TR433_11_LGB. Well, despite I’ve had :rtfm: I still having problem with SPI. Following the procedure: TMS Down, then CZ then WIDE on TGP as SOI don’t help me to place 4/4 on target. Tried to CZ even on FCR and HSD before start the target aquisition routine, don’t do the job. Least but not last I can’t be able to MissleStep a different station point in this mission. Any ideas?
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p137 line23: attack azimuth -> impact azimuth ; because of JDAM i think the impact azimuth is right.
Thanks,
Edit RD: corrected in next version
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Is there already an estimate as to when the training manual will be completed?
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why, did you already master it all?
3-4 weeks is the answer you’ll get
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@Red:
why, did you already master it all?
3-4 weeks is the answer you’ll get
touché
No I didn’t, I was just curious
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What caught my eye (finally) was the instruction on manually setting the UHF radio frequency during the first sweep.
How can you do this without any power (not even battery power) applied to the systems?
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Point 1 of the Before engine start is Main PWR switch to BATT
Point 6 of the Before engine start is communications all set to assigned UHF backupSo by the time you set the BUP UHF radio, your aircraft battery is ON and it works
So i don’t see any error in there -
@Red:
Point 1 of the Before engine start is Main PWR switch to BATT
Point 6 of the Before engine start is communications all set to assigned UHF backupSo by the time you set the BUP UHF radio, your aircraft battery is ON and it works
So i don’t see any error in thereYes, in the main checklist, which I tend to follow. I specified in the subject the “Three Sweeps” procedure listed in the training manual for Ground Ops.
Edit RD: corrected in next version
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Yep you’re right. A step is missing in the left console steps
Thanks