TQS Cursor double pot drifting: known fixes for this?
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@Red:
well if you use a tusba and you still suffer from microstick drifting, then i guess i have my answer.
tusba doesn’t solve it with it’s increased resolution.
Same here, tusba R2 bit still need to add deadzone to large in BMS to have it stop from drifting.
I do believe since 4.33 there’s a dedicated callback in BMS to stop the drift, no? It’s a software workaround but still…
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Well, there must be an underlying hardware cause. To clarify, is the issue that the microstick is not centered, or that the microstick when centered drifts, losing its center slowly?
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I do believe since 4.33 there’s a dedicated callback in BMS to stop the drift, no? It’s a software workaround but still…
Yep, SimRadarCursorZero
did anyone try it already ?I guess the real question is how do you use it without dedicating a button to it?
if i’d have to i’d duplicate the function of the cursor enable switch?Worth a try maybe. It won’t fix the problem, but it may make it’s use easier
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@Red:
Yep, SimRadarCursorZero
did anyone try it already ?I guess the real question is how do you use it without dedicating a button to it?
if i’d have to i’d duplicate the function of the cursor enable switch?Worth a try maybe. It won’t fix the problem, but it may make it’s use easier
Not tried it myself.
If I ever need it, I would use it as shifted layer function of the cursor enable. -
I used to suffer regularly from this though not always. Made most AG missions hopeless. Have had a year of no problems since using max dead zones but more importanty, adding dead zones within the TM control panel cursor axis screen.
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Yeah tried this before as well, the deadzones helped and the curve of -3 on both MIX and MIY as well, but never made the problem going completely away
would you give your deazones settings cobalt uk?i’ll give it another try and using the callback on shifted cusror enable
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@ CobaltUK yes having a look at your settings would help
@ Red Dog - did the same as you all the way - sometimes it works - but bottom line even with deadzones the problem pops up once and so often
current setting I use since two month with out problems
Cougar controll panel:
Microstik X = 0 ( sometimes have to use 12 up to 25)
Microstik Y = 0 ( sometimes have to use 12 up to 25)Offset curving:
Trim: 0
Curve base -2in game setting
Avionics control
Cursor Y = meddium
Cursor X = meddium
dont know if it helps all of you - but it might be a start.
regards
Walter
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In the Hotas cougar control panel I have centre set to 30 for both X and Y microstick axis. In bms setup controllers advanced deadzone is set Large but I reckon the benefits I get are purely from the CCP settings.
Just noticed that for some reason I have CCP Microstick Y upper and lower set to 2 but that’s probably just a historic error on my part. -
I mentioned the BMS workaround in my first post, but it doesn’t solve all drift situations. Im guessing just the smallest ones, along with use of deadzones. You might be able to slow down or hide small drift, but after a point software workarounds wont be able to mask the drift.
If theres something wrong with the pot itself, surely a new one will resolve the problem (I ordered a replacement from TM CS), but I was wondering if someone figured out how to restore or fix the pot as there are for the Range/Antenna pots by disassembling them. I have been successful fixing the Range pot which suffers from losing its detent and becoming loose to the point where the wiper misses the resistance plate. Ive not found any thing for the cursor pot, which is really what I was looking for. I may try potentiometer cleaner (like DeOxIt) next, maybe it gunks up after a while.
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I mentioned the BMS workaround in my first post, but it doesn’t solve all drift situations. Im guessing just the smallest ones, along with use of deadzones. You might be able to slow down or hide small drift, but after a point software workarounds wont be able to mask the drift.
If theres something wrong with the pot itself, surely a new one will resolve the problem (I ordered a replacement from TM CS), but I was wondering if someone figured out how to restore or fix the pot as there are for the Range/Antenna pots by disassembling them. I have been successful fixing the Range pot which suffers from losing its detent and becoming loose to the point where the wiper misses the resistance plate. Ive not found any thing for the cursor pot, which is really what I was looking for. I may try potentiometer cleaner (like DeOxIt) next, maybe it gunks up after a while.
Hi AV8R
Oliver ( Red Dog ) as far as I know he replaced the pots ( see his post #3) - so did I ( with brand new pots), still haveing a bit of a drift what I can go with - so I am able to fly MAV missions.
Hope that potentiometer cleaner works for you to get a good result.
Have a good weekend.
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indeed, I replaced multiples ones, on mine and for other ppl
The issue went away after a pot change but came back with time.
There is not a single time a drifting pot was fully solved by replacing the microstick. -
One other thing that has helped me in the past, remove the microstick “shield” - when calibrating, this allows a greater deflection and as such any nullzone programmed into the centre is slightly increased.
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I just ordered a couple of double pot cursors from TM, but if what Im seeing are the real TQS and its parts, I guess the next questions are:
- part numbers, vendor site, costs
- do they fit in a Cougar TQS, both physically and electrically compatible?
Digikey has compatible replacement microstick pots.
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Digikey has compatible replacement microstick pots.
Is wish they could deliver me one
As far as i know they are not produced anymoreMy 2 eurocents…
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One other thing that has helped me in the past, remove the microstick “shield” - when calibrating, this allows a greater deflection and as such any nullzone programmed into the centre is slightly increased.
Hi Malc,
so yours is working a 100% ???
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Hi Malc,
so yours is working a 100% ???
I don’t suffer any drifting, if that’s what you mean.
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Is wish they could deliver me one As far as i know they are not produced anymore : (My 2 eurocents…
Strange, as they are still listed in Digikey online catalog.
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the drifting you are experiencing comes from the cheap potis of the microstick.
replacing the whole ministick have done the trick to me.btw, i own a tusba and really like it.
the deadzones can be adjusted independently and you can work around drifting to some extend. -
I ordered a few spares from TM, so when they arrive it should solve the problem (for a while anyways). And I second Uga’s comments on the TUSBA, plus the higher resolution gives more fine control and the idle, mil, aft, min and max zones of the throttle throw are all programmable. Not to mention you can calibrate all pots and set DX assignments to the TQS not done otherwise (like SLAP and JFS, etc).
RedDog,
You never did deny or confirm you repurposed real TQS military POT parts to put into your TQS, but your picture implies as much. Wow, if so, that’s quite the gutsy move (pun intended). Wonder if the real TQS could be used and interfaced. -
the drifting you are experiencing comes from the cheap potis of the microstick.
read the post again, our experiences imply it’s not only that
You never did deny or confirm you repurposed real TQS military POT parts to put into your TQS, but your picture implies as much. Wow, if so, that’s quite the gutsy move (pun intended). Wonder if the real TQS could be used and interfaced.
Yes it can be done, quite a few Vp guys made it. I sticked to my TQS for far too long, I’m doing the move thanks to a friend who sourced a real TQS + internal guts. The real goal with all that is the pressure driven radar cursors.
There is a need for an interface between the real internal guts and the Cougar. that interface replaces the TQS PCB. and guess who made it?