Training Manual
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Let’s see…
I’m the author of the training manualAnd because of this ungrateful poster I decided NOt to finish the AA training mission.
There is no need for me to spend my free time trying to help ungrateful and arrogant pplIf you guys are disapointed by my decision, blame bobbydevo who hopefully will learn to become a bit less arrogant in the process
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C’mon, RED, if you gonna take it like the puss and stay offended because of one shitty comment wtf then? It didn’t make wheels stop turning is it.
I mean if you quit because of that then it did effect the path of your enthusiasm of YOUR life … and can you allow that !? Dude, no way. … what’s with You can’t break me attitude.arma2: The object of war isn’t to die for your country,it’s to make the other bastard die for his
-General George S.PattonRemeber your seal training, if you wanna quit just ring the bell … is right there just reach it if you’re strong enough… not
Whooah
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@Red:
Let’s see…
I’m the author of the training manualAnd because of this ungrateful poster I decided NOt to finish the AA training mission.
There is no need for me to spend my free time trying to help ungrateful and arrogant pplIf you guys are disapointed by my decision, blame bobbydevo who hopefully will learn to become a bit less arrogant in the process
I understand your disappointment…
But I think your decisions should be guided by all the people in this community that are grateful for your fantastic work on documentation, not by some rare post like this.
Don’t give up!
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Now Red, don’t let the (banable name calling) deter you…ban the OP for life and don’t give up. And if you need help call on me, I can write well and proof read if you need me. For my writing see my AF conversion guide. GOTS.
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ok, when is that?
It sucks I purchased that manual thru lulu and half of the game is missing…Go away.
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ok, when is that?
It sucks I purchased that manual thru lulu and half of the game is missing…Parts of the training manual is missing and therefore half of the game is missing??? LOL, wut??
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As someone just recently coming back to the game after a 10 year layoff, I’ve found your documentation essential and incredibly helpful. I have been eagerly awaiting the AA training missions having just recently completed (and doing over and over) the other missions. Don’t let one joker bother you as the rest of us really appreciate all of your hard work.
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….bobbydevo who hopefully will learn to become a bit less arrogant in the process…
hopefully…
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C’mon, RED, if you gonna take it like the puss and stay offended because of one shitty comment wtf then? It didn’t make wheels stop turning is it.
I mean if you quit because of that then it did effect the path of your enthusiasm of YOUR lifeAgreed. Remember, one swallow doesn’t make a summer, and one ungrateful twit doesn’t make a non-appreciative community
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Agreed. Remember, one swallow doesn’t make a summer, and one ungrateful twit doesn’t make a non-appreciative community
twit - are you sure you are spelling that correctly ;0)
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twit - are you sure you are spelling that correctly ;0)
No but who wants to get banned….
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twit - are you sure you are spelling that correctly ;0)
Absolutely sure I spelled it incorrectly but as Mower says…
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Your reading something that isn’t there… I do not understand your reaction when I was asking for knowledge. Yes, I purchased the training manual in it’s incomplete state. Yes, I would like to know when it will be finished. I am not arrogant… Actually I am kind of meek.
If I insulted you I apologize -
I don’t feel insulted - But I’m glad you apologized anyway
Here’s my view on your reaction:
You come here and “demand” more work from me and my team under the fact that you bought something which is not complete and to quote you: half the game is missing
You have been made aware that what you pay is not the manual (all my work is free - for your full benefit - just like all the rest in BMS)
What you pay for is the printing job that Lulu asks. Nobody makes a profit from it, except Lulu.
As said the PDFs are free on the forums and the content is the exact same.Now, there is nothing personnal in my reaction. Unfortunately you are not the first one to demand more work from a bunch of ppl working on their own quality time
That imho turns like arrogance. We do not own anything to you.
So you’re certainly a nice guy, but the way you acted in this topic turned as arrogant - which I hope is not becoming more and more a cultural thing - and one that as a moderator I have to point outon a personnal aspect:
Everyone has his own limit and I’m getting tired of these outburst so I apologize to have used your posts as an example.For the other guys, do not worry. I’m not dictating my activity based on a minority ever complaining. I do feel compelled to finish what I started, for the silent majority
So the project will continue and will be released when I have the time to pursue, not when some guys feel it’s time to deliver and demand content. -
While the like button is missing I say thank you. Your work and time is much appreciated!
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Your reading something that isn’t there… I do not understand your reaction when I was asking for knowledge. Yes, I purchased the training manual in it’s incomplete state. Yes, I would like to know when it will be finished. I am not arrogant… Actually I am kind of meek.
If I insulted you I apologizeYou misunderstand. The training manual is in a complete state…. for now. As I said in my reply to your first post, it will get more material in 4.34. Will it be finished by then? Who knows? Probably not; there’s always room for improvement.
Your attitude may have been surmised from the words and format you’ve used in your reply; maybe keep that in mind when typing up replies and choosing to use ??? instead of just ? As to when it will be finished… “3-4 Falcon weeks” translates to it’ll be finished when it’s finished. As the people who work on this do this in their spare time and provide the fruits of their labor for free, the community has learned to respect that and to give the devs their space.
Nice that you’ve shown maturity to apologize
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@Red:
Let’s see…
I’m the author of the training manualAnd because of this ungrateful poster I decided NOt to finish the AA training mission.
There is no need for me to spend my free time trying to help ungrateful and arrogant pplIf you guys are disapointed by my decision, blame bobbydevo who hopefully will learn to become a bit less arrogant in the process
“Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.” …… “Or the one.”
There will always be those that do not appreciate your work Red Dog but you are clearly the bigger man. Always appreciated RD
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@Red:
What you pay for is the printing job that Lulu asks. Nobody makes a profit from it, except Lulu.
As a user of Lulu, I know that this is a lie.
Here’s Reddogs page on Lulu: http://www.lulu.com/en/shop/olivier-beaumont/bms-433-training-manual-soft-cover-full-colours/paperback/product-22627376.html
He sells the book for $29.77 USD. Fair enough. This is WITHOUT shipping cost included by the way.
Here’s the customer enquiry page for quotes on books. It gives actual book manufacturing costs, not estimates. The great thing about Lulu is that these costs are constant from initial formation of books to final publishing. They don’t change.
http://www.lulu.com/create/books
Let’s take a look at the manufacturing cost of his book. Scroll halfway down the page and enter ‘152 pages’, this is the number of pages Reddog has written for his manual. It’ll give you a figure but the size is incorrect. So after that, scroll to the bottom of the page, click on full ‘color on white’ under the Interior Print column and then select ‘A4’ in the product size.
Well, what do you know? Total manufacturing cost for a full color A4 book is $9.71.
But wait, we’re not done yet. Go to this page next because this will outline the total cost to Lulu when you sell through their website: http://www.lulu.com/sell - and also here which outlines their commission: http://connect.lulu.com/en/discussion/33139
In the first box for the first link, you’ll see how much Lulu makes on each copy in total. The base cost, which is the manufacturing cost to Lulu, plus the Lulu share, which is 20% of the net profit Reddog makes on each copy. The 2nd link outlines commission.
So Reddog sells his book for $29.77. The manufacturing cost is $9.71. So minus the sale, he makes $20.06 on each copy.
Now for commission, which is splits the net profit 80/20 between the creator/lulu, 20% of this profit amount is $4.01 which goes back to Lulu.
Therefore for each sale of this Training manual, Reddog makes $16.05 for each copy sold. Note that this DOES NOT include postage. That comes in addition to the total cost of the purchase.
I knew something was suss when I read Reddogs reaction to the OP. A little research on the matter reveals that he’s been spinning a bit of a lie to the community at the same time. I mean hey, he did write the training manual so it is his property, I don’t know how you guys feel about that but for my part, no offense by me is taken.
But the whole “I don’t make money” thing? I mean… c’mon buddy, don’t lie about you not making money on the manual. It’s hilarious to think you could honestly get away with that! Come clean
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As a user of Lulu, I know that this is a lie.
Here’s Reddogs page on Lulu: http://www.lulu.com/en/shop/olivier-beaumont/bms-433-training-manual-soft-cover-full-colours/paperback/product-22627376.html
He sells the book for $29.77 USD. Fair enough. This is WITHOUT shipping cost included by the way.
Here’s the customer enquiry page for quotes on books. It gives actual book manufacturing costs, not estimates. The great thing about Lulu is that these costs are constant from initial formation of books to final publishing. They don’t change.
http://www.lulu.com/create/books
Let’s take a look at the manufacturing cost of his book. Scroll halfway down the page and enter ‘152 pages’, this is the number of pages Reddog has written for his manual. It’ll give you a figure but the size is incorrect. So after that, scroll to the bottom of the page, click on full ‘color on white’ under the Interior Print column and then select ‘A4’ in the product size.
Well, what do you know? Total manufacturing cost for a full color A4 book is $9.71.
But wait, we’re not done yet. Go to this page next because this will outline the total cost to Lulu when you sell through their website: http://www.lulu.com/sell - and also here which outlines their commission: http://connect.lulu.com/en/discussion/33139
In the first box for the first link, you’ll see how much Lulu makes on each copy in total. The base cost, which is the manufacturing cost to Lulu, plus the Lulu share, which is 20% of the net profit Reddog makes on each copy. The 2nd link outlines commission.
So Reddog sells his book for $29.77. The manufacturing cost is $9.71. So minus the sale, he makes $20.06 on each copy.
Now for commission, which is splits the net profit 80/20 between the creator/lulu, 20% of this profit amount is $4.01 which goes back to Lulu.
Therefore for each sale of this Training manual, Reddog makes $16.05 for each copy sold. Note that this DOES NOT include postage. That comes in addition to the total cost of the purchase.
I knew something was suss when I read Reddogs reaction to the OP. A little research on the matter reveals that he’s been spinning a bit of a lie to the community at the same time. I mean hey, he did write the training manual so it is his property, I don’t know how you guys feel about that but for my part, no offense by me is taken.
But the whole “I don’t make money” thing? I mean… c’mon buddy, don’t lie about you not making money on the manual. It’s hilarious to think you could honestly get away with that! Come clean
Maybe if you configure the book differently? Correctly?
Maybe you owe Olivier an apology?