IMPORTANT : MFD extract
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I know we sound and look dumb most of the time, but we understanding this question as a possible removal (for other benefits) is a rather natural train of thought to me
Hundreds of users in Discord channels. Iād rather worry about the hundreds of stupid questions that will come with 4.34.
are you saying that people who have no MFD at the moment have voted yes because they feared we could remove the option ?
JEEEZ that is worse than Brexit referendum !!!
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As I said in one of those Discord-channels:
Who among the devs thought it was a good idea to drop something like that and not give any sort of explanationā¦ Itās bound to create speculation and confusion until they reveal more.The first thought that comes to many minds with the current phrasing and lack of context, as witnessed here, is obviously that youāre asking: āDo you guys really use MFD Extraction, or would it be okay if we removed it?
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are you saying that people who have no MFD at the moment have voted yes because they feared we could remove the option ?
JEEEZ that is worse than Brexit referendum !!!
Hah, noā¦ I think those who donāt use, donāt care. I think the others do, though. I didnāt really doubt the yes would win, for that simple reason yet. Iāll tell you, to be honest, what I really took from the poll: that I wouldnāt need to check the announcement forum every day until the 5th of December
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120 users only ? Our community is dying
I would say not dying, just in hibernation. I feel that the community is still growingā¦. lots of new members joining the Falcon Lounge and F4BMSReadyRoom on discord all the timeā¦ A lot of people have temporarily left to muck about with the āglitter of DCSā and are just desperately waiting for the BMS 4.34 drop and I know that the Falcon Online community are waiting for the network code to be right for mass online PVP again. Once that happensā¦. the numbers will be a lot more realistic. Hope the videos Lorik and I put up help to gain more interest and bring more in the futureā¦
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There are BMSers out here who just like to fly and keep quiet on the forums, be it this one or Discord for reasons only known to them. i watch the videos and say that Lorik, Code, Ripper, Max, and Krause, just to name few keep a lot of people interested in the MP side of the game. I see new people on Discord almost on a daily basis. If I had MFDās I would vote yes. Unfortunately, I am not as tech savvy as others so they are not an option to me. I believe the devās when they say that they have no intention of removing them, just are they being used. The sky is not falling and if it does just firewall the throttle and climb above it!
Gentlemen, thank you for keeping this game alive and well!
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@TwanV:
MFD extraction = much better, in particular for TGP detail. I donāt use the MFD-extraction function tools that come with BMS however, instead YAME64ās 3D hook function which has better FPS for me.
Little confused how I should answer the poll !:D
lol - you would answer āyesā because you use MFD extraction, āanyā being the operative word in the poll and OP.
Cannot believe the confusion or misunderstandings here - perhaps wordings have already been edited? Because a Poll is just a poll - Do people really view this as some official vote posted by a BMS developer on the removal of MFD extraction? I just tend to assume the BMS crowd is on average more attentive to details, being that we basically learn how to operate a real world fighter jet (minus the physical and mental stresses, of course). Rather surprised at some of the posts here to be honest, all due respect of course.
A poll is just a poll - fun to see the results, the span - the difference - the number of people who chose to participate. No need to go off on the specifics of a poll or whatever, thatās just another factor. Itās not rocket science, itās just a poll; lawl
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I voted no because I have no wish to use them because I feel it kills immersionā¦ Virtual MFDs, physical MFDs in the same gameā¦ I prefer to feel like I am inside the game with 100% virtual stuff.
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I agree with radium. I like to use everything in sim rather than outside the screen.
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Cockpit builders - no matter how elaborate - use extraction; video gamers do notā¦thatās pretty much what it comes down to.
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I agree with radium. I like to use everything in sim rather than outside the screen.
So I guess you are using mouse instead of joystick for immersion?
XD
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Cockpit builders - no matter how elaborate - use extraction; video gamers do notā¦thatās pretty much what it comes down to.
While BMS is a videogame that we enjoy. Even those who have a home cockpit are still gamers : we do this for our own happiness and this is not used in a training framework : almost nobody here including me flew and will ever flew F-16 and even if it is very realistic it remains a great PC game that we download on internet ! We are all same !
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As I said in one of those Discord-channels:
Who among the devs thought it was a good idea to drop something like that and not give any sort of explanationā¦ Itās bound to create speculation and confusion until they reveal more.The first thought that comes to many minds with the current phrasing and lack of context, as witnessed here, is obviously that youāre asking: āDo you guys really use MFD Extraction, or would it be okay if we removed it?
Thatās bullshit. This is exactly what happens what you make assumptions. Where does it state extraction will be dropped?
The poll was worded in a way which, if you read what is being asked and NOT make your own assumptions with nothing whatsoever to back them up, is quite clear - do you or do you not use extraction. It is that simple. Moral of the story - read what is written and answer accordingly. Or donāt.
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So far Iāve been a āperpetual newbieā, learning the sim very slowly when I can find some time.
I voted ānoā because I havenāt used any external MFDs yet.
However, I do often dream of having some sort of external MFDs and/or ICP. Iād love to have the TM MFDs with clickable buttons, mounted in front an extra monitor (or monitors), so that I could look at the MFDs, see the same thing thatās in the virtual cockpit, and push the physical OSBs. Maybe even have some sort of ICP, too, either on a touchscreen or with physical buttons.
I donāt know how likely I am to try and actually set this up anytime soon. Probably too busy to actually dig into it, but it would be cool.
For now I just use a HOTAS (Warthog SSC and Cougar TQS) and I click on the virtual cockpitās buttons with my mouse.
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Thatās bullshit. This is exactly what happens what you make assumptions. Where does it state extraction will be dropped?
The poll was worded in a way which, if you read what is being asked and NOT make your own assumptions with nothing whatsoever to back them up, is quite clear - do you or do you not use extraction. It is that simple. Moral of the story - read what is written and answer accordingly. Or donāt.
Humour works without aggressiveness too. And if itās not humour, itās even worse.
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Humour works without aggressiveness too. And if itās not humour, itās even worse.
No humour, no aggressiveness. Just plain English.
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Guys itās just a simple q.
Why try to find a negative aspect on it? For me itās positive.
My assumption from it? Most probably they want to add some new features or new implementation for it and they want to see where the majority is and decide to have it high or low on their priority list.Ī£ĻĪ¬Ī»ĪøĪ·ĪŗĪµ Ī±ĻĻ ĻĪæ MI 5 Ī¼ĪæĻ ĻĻĪ·ĻĪ¹Ī¼ĪæĻĪæĪ¹ĻĪ½ĻĪ±Ļ Tapatalk
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No humour, no aggressiveness. Just plain English.
This is all just semantics, but I also was under the impression that this vote is critical, from the āIMPORTANTā in the thread name and the definiteness in the poll question. No it doesnāt say that MFD extraction will be removed but it is implied if you read it like I do. I.e. apparently we donāt all read plain english. This is easily avoided next time with a small explanation on the why. Unless you like to revel in mystery of course, but then donāt blame people being puzzledā¦
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No
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@TwanV:
This is all just semantics, but I also was under the impression that this vote is critical, from the āIMPORTANTā in the thread name and the definiteness in the poll question. No it doesnāt say that MFD extraction will be removed but it is implied if you read it like I do. I.e. apparently we donāt all read plain english. This is easily avoided next time with a small explanation on the why. Unless you like to revel in mystery of course, but then donāt blame people being puzzledā¦
I donāt blame people being puzzled by a lack of information or explanation - what I dislike is people jumping to conclusions based on nothing. It is atypical to assume the worst case scenario all the time. Why does everyhing have to be so negative? Why always assume the worst? The question, again, was simple - do you or do you not use extraction? A simple yes or no would suffice, but somehow this simple question gets interpretted by some its the end of the world and BMS are going to **** us all over and remove it, the thoughtless self-serving bastardsā¦
Yes, I agree with you 100 percent, a better worded or fuller explanation would have been much much better, but why assume the worst all time? Always look on the bright side of life anyone?
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So far Iāve been a āperpetual newbieā, learning the sim very slowly when I can find some time.
I voted ānoā because I havenāt used any external MFDs yet.
However, I do often dream of having some sort of external MFDs and/or ICP. Iād love to have the TM MFDs with clickable buttons, mounted in front an extra monitor (or monitors), so that I could look at the MFDs, see the same thing thatās in the virtual cockpit, and push the physical OSBs. Maybe even have some sort of ICP, too, either on a touchscreen or with physical buttons.
If you you have a spare monitor for mounting the MFD frames using velcro and an android tablet to emulate an ICP, donāt hesitate in ordering those TM mfd frames.
Itās really not that hard to set up (thanks to YAME) if you know how to use a text editor to edit your keyfile and / or know your way around Kolbeās keyfile generation tool.
It really adds a lot to the gaming experience IMHO and your ādeskpitā will look so much cooler because of it
All the best, Uwe