Been Flying Allied Force for a Long Time...
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@airtex2019 said in Been Flying Allied Force for a Long Time...:
@efsixteenblock50 said in Been Flying Allied Force for a Long Time...:
As I was heading north, my FPM was really way out to the right side. This would happen to a lesser extent in AF due to wind. But this was (I thought) rather extreme. The predicted weather called for wind at 10-12 knots - pretty mild.
Wind at high altitude =/= wind at ground level.
Fun tip: if you hit [right-arrow] the DED will show your current drift vector (basically wind speed you’re currently experiencing… derived from airspeed and compass heading, vs INS / GPS sensors)
Right.
I also read that if you get too irritated by the FPM being all wonky because of the wind, there is a setting to center it. It warns that if you do use this option, not to forget switching it back before attempting to land.
I will never use that! Accident waiting to happen. Plus - I like my FPM do actually do what an FPM is supposed to do. -
@Atlas said in Been Flying Allied Force for a Long Time...:
@efsixteenblock50 said in Been Flying Allied Force for a Long Time...:
So here’s where I’m at:
I’ve been playing Allied Force with a cheap-azz Logitech Extreme 3D stick since forever. No Track IR, I use the hat switch to look around.
I’m used to the six buttons on the base of the stick to give me different views (BTW - have some of the views like “fly-by” been discontinued in BMS? I would imagine it would be considered cheating in multi-player…)
I intend on getting TrackIR and a real stick & throttle.I started off with that same stick and AF too, about 20 years ago now? Mad respect to you for lasting this long. My Logi stick lasted for about 6 months before I had to open it up and clean the pots. 2 campaigns!
Welcome to BMS. Forget everything you think you know about Falcon. The HUD is the same, the cockpit layout is the same, and the external view shows you an aircraft that looks vaguely familiar. Biggest change when I made the jump? Not having to toggle from 2D to do cockpit work and 3D to build SA!! I used to have that bound to my HOTAS but it was still a bit of an immersion breaker. Not anymore! Fully clickable 3D cockpit!
Tanking is now more difficult, no more tractor beam!
Everything is smarter/better/more complicated. I suggest starting with the training manual and going from there. Welcome back and don’t be shy to ask questions! We may tell you to RTFM but we’ll tell you where to look
I don’t know if I deserve mad respect for sticking with AF for so long. TBH, my reasons for not making the change earlier are kind of…different.
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From reading all the installation horror stories over the years, it felt like too much of a science project. Plus it was like changing strings on a guitar - I pick up the guitar to do the work but would rather play it!
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I was seriously worried that if I got into BMS that it would take over my life. Now I’m like…“Yeah…AND?”
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@efsixteenblock50 said in Been Flying Allied Force for a Long Time...:
@airtex2019 said in Been Flying Allied Force for a Long Time...:
@efsixteenblock50 said in Been Flying Allied Force for a Long Time...:
As I was heading north, my FPM was really way out to the right side. This would happen to a lesser extent in AF due to wind. But this was (I thought) rather extreme. The predicted weather called for wind at 10-12 knots - pretty mild.
Wind at high altitude =/= wind at ground level.
Fun tip: if you hit [right-arrow] the DED will show your current drift vector (basically wind speed you’re currently experiencing… derived from airspeed and compass heading, vs INS / GPS sensors)
Right.
I also read that if you get too irritated by the FPM being all wonky because of the wind, there is a setting to center it. It warns that if you do use this option, not to forget switching it back before attempting to land.
I will never use that! Accident waiting to happen. Plus - I like my FPM do actually do what an FPM is supposed to do.Nah, simply buy a SimGears ICP and flip the switch to Drift C/O when flying and back to Norm when landing!
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Well do your guitar a favour and change the strings at least every sixth months.
Old and tired strings will not exert the same pull on your instrument’s neck so it will go all wonky and inverse banana on you over time (or so I’ve heard).
I’m always too lazy to do this on my Maton EMC 325 (I’m using Elixir nanoweb strings which last quite a long time) and I usually go like “er well, these strings still sound good (enough )” only to be amazed by the change when I finally decide to exchange them with a new set
I usually recycle the old strings to a 2nd guitar or keep the set as an emergency spare so waste is hopefully minimized by this procedure.
All the best, Uwe
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@Icer said in Been Flying Allied Force for a Long Time...:
Nah, simply buy a SimGears ICP and flip the switch to Drift C/O when flying and back to Norm when landing!
Or simply hit the “division” key on the numeric keypad to toggle between the two states
Cheers, Uwe
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@efsixteenblock50 said in Been Flying Allied Force for a Long Time...:
I don’t know if I deserve mad respect for sticking with AF for so long. TBH, my reasons for not making the change earlier are kind of…different.
Not for sticking with AF but for flying with the Logi stick for this long!
The installation process is a bit… unique for BMS but they now have an integrated one which seems to indicate it’s getting easier. I’ve not tried it personally. As for changing strings… think more like getting a whole new guitar and you get to pick your strings!!
Once you get a HOTAS and want to customise it for your needs, you’ll appreciate it more for sure. I personally just edit stuff on the .txt file but most people seem to use the Alternative Launcher. Again, I’ve not tried AL myself.
As for BMS taking over… and???
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@Icer said in Been Flying Allied Force for a Long Time...:
Nah, simply buy a SimGears ICP and flip the switch to Drift C/O when flying and back to Norm when landing!
@hoover said in Been Flying Allied Force for a Long Time...:
Or simply hit the “division” key on the numeric keypad to toggle between the two states
Or click on the switch on the ICP in the digital world
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@Atlas said in Been Flying Allied Force for a Long Time...:
@efsixteenblock50 said in Been Flying Allied Force for a Long Time...:
I don’t know if I deserve mad respect for sticking with AF for so long. TBH, my reasons for not making the change earlier are kind of…different.
Not for sticking with AF but for flying with the Logi stick for this long!
The installation process is a bit… unique for BMS but they now have an integrated one which seems to indicate it’s getting easier. I’ve not tried it personally. As for changing strings… think more like getting a whole new guitar and you get to pick your strings!!
Once you get a HOTAS and want to customise it for your needs, you’ll appreciate it more for sure. I personally just edit stuff on the .txt file but most people seem to use the Alternative Launcher. Again, I’ve not tried AL myself.
As for BMS taking over… and???
Speaking of HOTAS…
Something I’ve been wondering about - what with the BMS culture of striving for realism, I would think that since, for example, the Warthog stick is pretty much identical to the real stick in the F-16, there wouldn’t be all this emphasis on customization - why don’t people program it to work just like it does in the real thing?I’m getting one BTW. And the throttle. And TrackIR!
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@efsixteenblock50 not sure exactly if this is what you mean, but the simulator is never real life … there are a variety of things you may want mapped to your hotas, for convenience, that in real life don’t apply or maybe would require you to take hand off stick for a brief second, things like
- raise/lower sun-visor
- night-vision
- the slap-switch
- zoom FOV in/out
- apply rudder/brakes, if you don’t have pedals
- pause/resume or recenter-TrackIR
etc
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@airtex2019 said in Been Flying Allied Force for a Long Time...:
@efsixteenblock50 not sure exactly if this is what you mean, but the simulator is never real life … there are a variety of things you may want mapped to your hotas, for convenience, that in real life don’t apply or maybe would require you to take hand off stick for a brief second, things like
- raise/lower sun-visor
- night-vision
- the slap-switch
- zoom FOV in/out
- apply rudder/brakes, if you don’t have pedals
- pause/resume or recenter-TrackIR
etc
That make sense.
The slap switch! I noticed that when mapping - what does that do?
(I forgot)
That’s been my biggest issue with getting up & running - the pickle button was easy, as is called the same thing in AF.
But many of the “must have on the stick” things are refered to by names that I’d never heard of.
e.g. I was looking for the key stroke that designates or “locks” up the target after slewing the radar cursor. So I searched for “designator”, “lock” etc… but no joy. Finally found it after a few hours. -
@efsixteenblock50
Get a copy of the BMS -1 in there you will find the names and functions of stick a throttle buttons for all modes. Find the 4.35 version in the download section -
@Badger said in Been Flying Allied Force for a Long Time...:
@efsixteenblock50
Get a copy of the BMS -1 in there you will find the names and functions of stick a throttle buttons for all modes. Find the 4.35 version in the download sectionBMS-1? Do you mean DASH 1?
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@efsixteenblock50 said in Been Flying Allied Force for a Long Time...:
@airtex2019 said in Been Flying Allied Force for a Long Time...:
@efsixteenblock50 not sure exactly if this is what you mean, but the simulator is never real life … there are a variety of things you may want mapped to your hotas, for convenience, that in real life don’t apply or maybe would require you to take hand off stick for a brief second, things like
- raise/lower sun-visor
- night-vision
- the slap-switch
- zoom FOV in/out
- apply rudder/brakes, if you don’t have pedals
- pause/resume or recenter-TrackIR
etc
That make sense.
The slap switch! I noticed that when mapping - what does that do?
(I forgot)
That’s been my biggest issue with getting up & running - the pickle button was easy, as is called the same thing in AF.
But many of the “must have on the stick” things are refered to by names that I’d never heard of.
e.g. I was looking for the key stroke that designates or “locks” up the target after slewing the radar cursor. So I searched for “designator”, “lock” etc… but no joy. Finally found it after a few hours.Instead of loosing time trying to guess what about reading the manual ?
You need to understand that falcon AF is a total different game than BMS.
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@efsixteenblock50 said in Been Flying Allied Force for a Long Time...:
The slap switch! I noticed that when mapping - what does that do?
quick answer… you have 4 countermeasure programs selectable by dial. but there a 6 on your data cartridge
the slap-switch invokes #5. and CMS-left will invoke #6
typical/default for slap-switch is to dispense 1 flare + 1 chaff… sort of a “manual” fallback for countermeasures
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Before you spend (some would say “waste” ) a few hundred hard earned bucks on a ridiculously overpriced TrackIR make sure to check out some alternatives like DelanClip / ps eye camera /opentrack which work just as well as TrackIR, are of higher build quality (esp. the DelanClip is made of sturdy metal and comes in certain varieties like wireless and so on) and will set you back far less than TIR. You can even build your own tracking clip for around $10 in parts if you know which end of the soldering iron gets hot
As a bonus, you’ll be able to use the delanclip with trackir if you should decide it has to be tir after all.
All the best, Uwe
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Just invest in VR headset…
It should be worth your investment soon
PS: A head tracking device is still worth though
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Talking about VR, I have a few questions:
Does one need just the headset or the whole kit ? How do you glance at the “real” controls ( keyboard, mouse, hotas) when wearing one ?
My vision has faded significantly in recent years so I need to wear reading glasses to read the screen, does that hinder wearing a headset (not really looking forward to wear contacts + reading glasses + VR headset ) ?
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@Vyper37 said in Been Flying Allied Force for a Long Time...:
Talking about VR, I have a few questions:
Does one need just the headset ? How do you glance at the “real” ontrols ( keyboard, mouse, hotas) when wearing one ?
My vision has faded significantly in recent years so I need to wear reading glasses to read the screen, does that hinder wearing a headset (not really looking forward to wear contacts + reading glasses + VR headset ) ?
I think Max may have been joking (?) but to answer your questions. The only way to see outside of a headset is if it has good pass-through or to lift it off. Quest 2 has it but it is grainy B&W, horrible (as is the Q2’s VR quality IMO). Maybe someone will have it in the future for a reasonable cost (Varjo VR/XR models have it but $$$$$$). As for glasses, I wear readers and bought VROptician prescription lens covers. They not only clarify vision but also protect the easiy damaged lenses in my HP G2v2…
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@efsixteenblock50 said in Been Flying Allied Force for a Long Time...:
I’m getting one BTW. And the throttle. And TrackIR!
My journey to Incel-ism is nearly complete!You may want to look at the Deltasim’s replacement slew sensor upgrade (though I read TM may have upgraded this part in the latest Warthog Throttles?) and consider the VPC WarBRD stick base to replace the plastic gimble/greased ball of the standard base. Easy to swap and you can set the firmware to duplicate the TM base so Target thinks its OEM, programs normally… night and day difference in quality and feel.