4.37 killed the AMRAAM
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@airtex2019 said in 4.37 killed the AMRAAM:
@Razor161 said in 4.37 killed the AMRAAM:
I mean, I probably know the answer: “4.38 will have inaccurate TD boxes and radar screens.”
In BVR you see the TD box perfectly on a target, that you can not see (Beyond Visual Range). That’s exactly my kind of humor!
There’s TGP. You can indeed see it “drift” away from bugged radar target, in between scan contacts, in RWS or TWS modes. It doesn’t appear to drift miles and miles… but point is you can see the target, and get a sense of scale of the error between scan updates ~ 5 seconds or so.
He referred to the TD box on the HUD.
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@Razor161 yes, presumably one and the same, right? in terms of what information the jet has on the position and relative velocity of the target
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We have tested the new features and improvements of AMRAMM. The ACMI files speak for themselves.
Small spoiler: none of the missiles has hit…
Falcon BMS 4.37.1
Theater: Balkan 1.07.1
Threat: Single Mig-29S, Level: RookieHere the link to my google drive with the files.
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@EuKeule
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@EuKeule said in 4.37 killed the AMRAAM:
We have tested the new features and improvements of AMRAMM. The ACMI files speak for themselves.
Small spoiler: none of the missiles has hit…
Falcon BMS 4.37.1
Theater: Balkan 1.07.1
Threat: Single Mig-29S, Level: RookieHere the link to my google drive with the files.
Yes, make your ACMI available publically and it’s only going to tell some of the story.
I can tell you that I’ve launched these at mig 29, Su27, F15, F16, J20 AI and had great success. Engaged Human F16’s from inside of 15 NM and very High PK, depending on how aggressive the bandit defends. You have to launch within the WEZ and not the RMax. That shot is so easily defeatble it’s a waste of a missile.Also what modes are you launching in TWS, STT, TTS and are you supporting all of the missiles all the way to pitbull or are you snipping them?
Missiles aren’t magic anymore and if you are comparing them to the old you need to get that out of your head. The old missile was wrong.
There needs to be a target whithin the narrow FOV of the missile when it goes pitbull or it’s not going to hit. So if you don’t support the missile until PB it’s probably going to miss especailly if the bandit is anythign other than head on.
Also on the SMS page. Is the missile set to Small, MED , unknown etc…
Waiting on the ACMI…
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The data and code between KTO and the Balkans is the same. If you can shoot down in KTO, it should work in the Balkans too.
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@EuKeule Share the ACMI publicly. Would love to see what’s going on in them. Considering the heavy in depth testing that was done on the considerably improved missile, we saw nothing but great results (if fired properly and supported properly), huge improvements with missile track and terminal guidance. As Sandman mentioned above…‘the magic missiles you had in the past are gone because they were wrong’. Now the missiles also miss when they should miss and ‘should’ hit when you put them in their best possible parameters to hit…obviously there are many factors that need to be taken into account to get a hit.
Share the acmi so we can all take a look! Also give us some more info, what mode you launched in, fully supported to pitbull? Over a networked connection or SP? … answer maybe in the details… rest we will see in the acmi’s including range, aspect, altitude, energy, etc…
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@cougar56th I don´t think it´s a Balkan issue, it´s an AMRAAM issue
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@Bloodhound161 said in 4.37 killed the AMRAAM:
@cougar56th I don´t think it´s a Balkan issue, it´s an AMRAAM issue
i think it’s a user issue
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@Mav-jp
ok…
here is the ACMI, tell me what went wrong:https://www.file-upload.net/download-15088296/2023-02-01_13-26-35.zip.acmi.html
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@Bloodhound161 said in 4.37 killed the AMRAAM:
@Mav-jp
ok…
here is the ACMI, tell me what went wrong:https://www.file-upload.net/download-15088296/2023-02-01_13-26-35.zip.acmi.html
i that MP game ? because to me it looks like a very broken MP game with huge issues of Positioning and Bandwith / lagging issues
because out of the hundreds of AIM120 we all launched those last 3 weeks, we never seen this
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@Bloodhound161 said in 4.37 killed the AMRAAM:
@Mav-jp
ok…
here is the ACMI, tell me what went wrong:https://www.file-upload.net/download-15088296/2023-02-01_13-26-35.zip.acmi.html
I’ve seen ACMI’s like this before and it’s usually when there are questionable Pings. Was this a MP game or hosted on a MP server? If so what are you up/down BW settings, server settings etc? Also was this AI in the Mig 29 or human?
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@Mav-jp
Nope. Single player, just to test the missile.Single MiG 29A, rookie
At the end 6 slammers with (I have no clue, but I think) good shooting conditions were wasted and 20mm made the rest.
What´s the user issue?
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I just jumped in a jet against Mig29 X 4. Shot using TWS which is the least accurate mode due to considerably reduced radar updates…
3 tracked - although third missile close to not tracking
1 missed - rightfully so!TACVIEW
https://easyupload.io/uvys6kI’m not seeing an issue?
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@Bloodhound161 said in 4.37 killed the AMRAAM:
@Mav-jp
Nope. Single player, just to test the missile.Single MiG 29A, rookie
At the end 6 slammers with (I have no clue, but I think) good shooting conditions were wasted and 20mm made the rest.
What´s the user issue?
dont know what is the user issue, but i have no idea what you are doing to be able to record this ACMI
what is your FPS ?
what i see though is huge positioning issues
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@Mav-jp
ok, it is not my tape (it´s from my squadron lead), but I´m all ears -
@Bloodhound161 said in 4.37 killed the AMRAAM:
@Mav-jp
ok, it is not my tape (it´s from my squadron lead), but I´m all earsno idea , never seen such broken positioning issues … the whole thing is heavily broken here in term of positionings
and i never saw AI defend this way (and i’m the one who coded it) …
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@unleashedcode said in 4.37 killed the AMRAAM:
I just jumped in a jet against Mig29 X 4. Shot using TWS which is the least accurate mode due to considerably reduced radar updates…
3 tracked - although third missile close to not tracking
1 missed - rightfully so!TACVIEW
https://easyupload.io/uvys6kI’m not seeing an issue?
His ACMI does not show any Aquisition issue, but bizarre positioning and guidance
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@Bloodhound161 said in 4.37 killed the AMRAAM:
@Mav-jp
ok, it is not my tape (it´s from my squadron lead), but I´m all earsis that Stock Balkans from Cougar with no Mods ?