Fragments from the explosion: how high to fly?
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A few words: when you select MK-84 AIR via text message you are already in air mode and it is therefore not necessary to activate it.
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Blast fragmentation radius grows to 3,700 feet over 7 seconds for most of the bombs last time I checked.
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@Stevie said in Fragments from the explosion: how high to fly?:
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Unfortunately, we don’t have this planning info in our manuals.We have. Page 471-472, -34
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@Micro_440th said in Fragments from the explosion: how high to fly?:
We have. Page 471-472, -34
Which Manual? I dont find any manual with 472 pages.
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@tdr Look in your manuals folder, under C:\Falcon BMS 4.37\Docs\02 Aircraft Manuals & Checklists
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@tdr
“\Falcon BMS 4.37\Docs\02 Aircraft Manuals & Checklists\01 F-16\TO 1F-16CMAM-34-1-1 BMS.pdf” -
@tdr Or open Alternative Launcher and click on documentation and manuals: open docs folder
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@tdr Or on the home page of this website which is nice because you can read them from anywhere you have internet access.
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@Micro_440th said in Fragments from the explosion: how high to fly?:
@Stevie said in Fragments from the explosion: how high to fly?:
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Unfortunately, we don’t have this planning info in our manuals.We have. Page 471-472, -34
Which release? The -34 included with 4.37 only has 350 pages…sure would be glad to se these, even though two pages is FAR less than what would be presented ini a TACMAN.
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@Stevie
Stevie, they are right.
take a look into here:
C:/Falcon BMS 4.37/Docs/02 Aircraft Manuals & Checklists/01 F-16/TO 1F-16CMAM-34-1-1 BMS.pdf@For all
Sorry guys, I didn’t take a look inside this file. My fault. -
@tdr said in Fragments from the explosion: how high to fly?:
@Stevie
Stevie, they are right.
take a look into here:
C:/Falcon BMS 4.37/Docs/02 Aircraft Manuals & Checklists/01 F-16/TO 1F-16CMAM-34-1-1 BMS.pdf@For all
Sorry guys, I didn’t take a look inside this file. My fault.Yes - that’s what I looked at…but given that the -34 is included with every release, I wouldn’t doubt that it has been revised over the years - at least I’d hope so. The current one in 4.37 is only 350 pages long, and when I searched it on “frag” none of the information we’re looking for (specifically “daisy plots” of any kind) is in there…but that doesn’t mean it may not have been in there at some point…I’d think.
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@Stevie The latest version is 609 pages. Can’t remember when during 4.37.3 release it was published, initially or with one of the two hot-fixes. Has a lot more A-G info (among other things)
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@Stevie Sure you are not looking at the the 4.35 docs? 🤭
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@Stevie said in Fragments from the explosion: how high to fly?:
@tdr said in Fragments from the explosion: how high to fly?:
@Stevie
Stevie, they are right.
take a look into here:
C:/Falcon BMS 4.37/Docs/02 Aircraft Manuals & Checklists/01 F-16/TO 1F-16CMAM-34-1-1 BMS.pdf@For all
Sorry guys, I didn’t take a look inside this file. My fault.Yes - that’s what I looked at…but given that the -34 is included with every release, I wouldn’t doubt that it has been revised over the years - at least I’d hope so. The current one in 4.37 is only 350 pages long, and when I searched it on “frag” none of the information we’re looking for (specifically “daisy plots” of any kind) is in there…but that doesn’t mean it may not have been in there at some point…I’d think.
4.35 does not include frag damage so nothing to worry about
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@jayb said in Fragments from the explosion: how high to fly?:
@Stevie The latest version is 609 pages. Can’t remember when during 4.37.3 release it was published, initially or with one of the two hot-fixes. Has a lot more A-G info (among other things)
Now that’s a thought…I need to go look at the docs in my 4.37.3 folder. Pretty sure what I’ve been looking at came from my 4.37.0 install.
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@Stevie said in Fragments from the explosion: how high to fly?:
@jayb said in Fragments from the explosion: how high to fly?:
@Stevie The latest version is 609 pages. Can’t remember when during 4.37.3 release it was published, initially or with one of the two hot-fixes. Has a lot more A-G info (among other things)
Now that’s a thought…I need to go look at the docs in my 4.37.3 folder. Pretty sure what I’ve been looking at came from my 4.37.0 install.
…ok, this is interesting - when I go look at the Docs folder in my 4.37.3 install, NONE of the .pdf files that used to be at top level are there. And if I look in the BMS Manuals folder, neither of the TO-BMS (-1 or -34) ones are in there.
Did the new Launcher screw me at install here?
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@Stevie said in Fragments from the explosion: how high to fly?:
@Stevie said in Fragments from the explosion: how high to fly?:
@jayb said in Fragments from the explosion: how high to fly?:
@Stevie The latest version is 609 pages. Can’t remember when during 4.37.3 release it was published, initially or with one of the two hot-fixes. Has a lot more A-G info (among other things)
Now that’s a thought…I need to go look at the docs in my 4.37.3 folder. Pretty sure what I’ve been looking at came from my 4.37.0 install.
…ok, this is interesting - when I go look at the Docs folder in my 4.37.3 install, NONE of the .pdf files that used to be at top level are there. And if I look in the BMS Manuals folder, neither of the TO-BMS (-1 or -34) ones are in there.
Did the new Launcher screw me at install here?
Nope - finally found them!
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@Stevie
all’s well that ends well -
@tdr - and after looking, I did find two “daisy plots”…trouble is, I have a distinct feeling they are for the same warhead…I used to have to use these almost daily in planning for RL drops back in another life, and they brought back some great memories. This sort of makes me want to think/wonder that all A/G frag burst patterns in BMS are modeled to this single example?
In the RW, there should be examples of these for every A/G weapon and associated detonation mode that the jet can carry. The way to use them is to check your planned time of fall and down range travel against where you will be within this plot…
…and even so, mistakes can still be made - I did have occasion(s) to have pilots bring the jet back having fragged it’s tail a couple times - both occasions were post-strafing, due to late break away during the recovery. Minor damage, but…ouch!..considering real jet, real ammo, real holes.