FO - Battle For Balkans Theater
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@mavjp
As you agreed, the main problem lies within the outdated SP4 alike database. First, it is cold war minded. You dont see armored battalions anymore parading in a battlefield. In other words, you dont see vast columns of steel marching towards the enemy. Its the exception nowadays. Moroever, even these are a huge mess in stock database. Weaponering is broken as well. Surface units -throughout those years of Falcon development- still have 100 hitpoints. These are just few examples.
Now, there are people in the community that fixed all those problems and made other vastly improvements. FO is one of them. The problem is that every time the BMS gives us an official update, then we have to manually update the outdated database again and again and again to make things look more realistic.
So, bottom line, it would be nice idea if the bms team -just like human evolution - encompasses those, already made, db updates and start building on them.
i agree but things must be done in complete cooperation , which means some 3rn Parties devs should also accept when āsomeā mods are not taken into account
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People need more solidarity among us. I think the seeding torrent Battle for Balkans. Many of you have downloaded installation files, and immediately stop seed now there are only three seeds. Why does not anyone stay and returns at least as far as took? (ratio 1, or few days)
Never let my Mac stay on electricity a minute more then for my own needs! Perhaps this link serves yours?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/apcgb1mstx6jurt/Battle_for_Balkans_1.12.7z
But when Mac = up: seeding = ON!
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4098 and 4100 textures looks sameā¦
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make AF-like Aim120 C-4 and C-5 in core db and half work on weapon performance is done (then few SAM tweaks and u are almost finished)ā¦.
What most dont understandā¦ the db entriees are mostly responsible for AI behaviours and 3D appearances (execption code hacks)ā¦weapons performances are in the simdata folder.
Regardless how well the stock database (based on Korea) or its structure will be made in future, there is one thing to be considered (must).
Each individual theater MAY or WILL NEED its own adjustments in its OWN database because of the theater specifics, thus a flexibility regards (modability aspect - code) has to remain.The stock database can be universal (of course), but it should not be forgotten that a Add-on xxxx file-structure needs to be operational aswell.
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Just awesome! So tired of Korea. Thank you so much for all your efforts to provide us with a change of scenery.:D
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@A.S:
What most dont understandā¦ the db entriees are mostly responsible for AI behaviours and 3D appearances (execption code hacks)ā¦weapons performances are in the simdata folder.
Regardless how well the stock database (based on Korea) or its structure will be made in future, there is one thing to be considered (must).
Each individual theater MAY or WILL NEED its own adjustments in its OWN database because of the theater specifics, thus a flexibility regards (modability aspect - code) has to remain.The stock database can be universal (of course), but it should not be forgotten that a Add-on xxxx file-structure needs to be operational aswell.
yes, of courseā¦.justā¦ current amraam ruins BVR.
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Have been seeding for the last week as well (have yet to install the theater though ;))
Uwe
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make AF-like Aim120 C-4 and C-5 in core db and half work on weapon performance is done (then few SAM tweaks and u are almost finished)ā¦.
AF - AIM 120 are WAY off at low alt
BMS - AIM120 are off at high altno data can fix that
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AF - AIM 120 are WAY off at low alt
BMS - AIM120 are off at high altno data can fix that
post 1
i think people here miss the most important point about missile modeling
Aerodynamics + physics is very very easy to do ā¦
the main problem lies in guidance code ā¦post 2
ā¦so yes FM missile is Shit
(many times in various context)I am a bit confused now. Sorry, I dont want to derail this thread, but this is very important for me ā¦I guess AF vs BMS Amraam was probably discussed already beforeā¦I missed it and can not find the thread.
Do u think AF Amraam is overmodeled in low air? I would let it rather overmodeled and force players to execute real tactics. PvP air combat is the most important F4 feature for me.
Did u balanced it different due to the singleplayer (human vs stupid AI) preference? What about to make another AF-like Amraam entry for PvP guys?
EDIT: or is it impossible due to the huge code difference? Is BMS guidance algoritmus so bad, compared to AF?EDIT2:
1st entry - current BMS āAim-120Cā: shitty guidance, but kinematicaly OK in low alt, OFF in high alt
2nd entry - āAim-120C-7ā for example (Af -like) or āAim-120C-afā: shitty guidance, as C-5 in high alt, as C-7 in low alt2nd entry does not allow player to turn into missile etc, data balanced in coop with A.S., KidVicious and other PvP celebrites
All your KTO campaigns can stay with 1st entry
Dogfight module - both entries (on two F16 - u can practise against AI and human)
PvP campaigns - can use 2nd entryP.S. sorry for my english
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i agree but things must be done in complete cooperation , which means some 3rn Parties devs should also accept when āsomeā mods are not taken into account
Show me complete cooperation between BMS Group and the FO Devsā i.e. communication.
Then we can move forwardā¦ā¦has been sadly lacking since initial release and the fall out from TAW.Demer
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Agrave_Blue/ Khronik, /no, I did not unzipped the archive to my desktop. Falcon BMS4.32 is on my root (usually C:). I did not think to unzip the file directly to my desktop. I tried it from the zip program. I guess that is my problem. I unzipped the file to my desktop and now see the installer; thanks guys.
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Never let my Mac stay on electricity a minute more then for my own needs! Perhaps this link serves yours?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/apcgb1mstx6jurt/Battle_for_Balkans_1.12.7z
But when Mac = up: seeding = ON!
Sorry guys! Had to remove the file, but seeding will continueā¦!
Cheers
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Sorry guys! Had to remove the file, but seeding will continueā¦!
Cheers
Alright, I created two more links to the torrent.
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Sorry guys! Had to remove the file, but seeding will continueā¦!
Cheers
Just a heads upā¦ the Battle for Balkans Installer package on itās own used over 3TB of bandwidth in 2 days (Nov 30th-Dec 1st), so Iām not surprised file sharing sites are flagging for bandwidth usage.
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Quick question. How do you get back to the other theaters. I do not see a link from the BfB single player.
Edit: Found it.
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Just a heads upā¦ the Battle for Balkans Installer package on itās own used over 3TB of bandwidth in 2 days (Nov 30th-Dec 1st), so Iām not surprised file sharing sites are flagging for bandwidth usage.
How about a torrent ?
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Click on the icon in upper left corner of GUI.
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Torrent posted earlier in this thread. A few of us have been seeding, but not much traffic.
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Most of you guys already know the SOPs, but it has been updated (heads up) and a video had been added aswell (under 13)
http://falcon-online.org/forum/index.php?page=sop
cheers ā¦ good hunting