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    • drtbkj
      drtbkj last edited by

      Good Day, All.
      Loaded 4.33 last night and absolutely loving it. I do have 2 questions, however…

      1. While in the HARM training mission the HAD page worked normally, in Instant Action I got “HAD off” on the HAD MFD page. I was in AG mode, HARM’s were powered up, and Master Arm -Armed. I even flew around awhile to see if it would time in(a’la Mavs), no dice. As I was in IA, I couldn’t check if the HTS pod was actually loaded( and at the time did not think to use an external view). I don’t see anything about this in the manuals, and it did work in training.
      2. For some reason, my Miss Step control never changed CCRP/CCIP/DTOS in 4.32, and that issue has “traveled” with me to 4.33. Back in the day we discussed it here without resolution, so I implemented a workaround of putting the FCC Submode command on my HOTAS.
        I have just started the HOTAS reprogramming process, and I do not see FCC submode command in the new BMS keyfile. Does anyone see a problem with me transplanting that command into the new keyfile from the old keystroke file?
        Thanks, and MANY thanks to those that have brought us 4.33

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      • Kolbe-49th
        Kolbe-49th last edited by

        As stated for example in Dash 1, page 54 the MSL STEP in AG mode steps through CCRP/CCIP/DTOS (callback = SimMissileStep).
        If you are referring to SimFCCSubModeStep: It has been replaced by DMS up / down and will be deleted in the future.

        I can not comment on 1, sorry.

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        • WindWeapon
          WindWeapon last edited by

          I saw same thing with HAD off in campaign. I saw mention of a switch to turn on in manual, thus perhaps it is off by default as compared to 4.32?

          UPDATE: from manual:
          SMS: Select AGM-88 and PWR ON
          LEFT HDPT PWR: Check ON

          Though, where is the power button/switch for the left HDPT?

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          • I-Hawk
            I-Hawk @WindWeapon last edited by

            HAD will be OFF if you don’t have a HTS pod. In IA you don’t so you can use the WPN HARM modes.

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            • drtbkj
              drtbkj @Kolbe-49th last edited by

              @Kolbe-49th:

              As stated for example in Dash 1, page 54 the MSL STEP in AG mode steps through CCRP/CCIP/DTOS (callback = SimMissileStep).
              If you are referring to SimFCCSubModeStep: It has been replaced by DMS up / down and will be deleted in the future.

              I can not comment on 1, sorry.

              Thx, Kolbe. I am referring to the Miss. Step button (as you say is described in p.54) . For some unknown reason, though MS does what it should in Nav and AA, it does not in AG (CCRP/CCIP/DTOS) . In 4.32 I was using SimMissileStep for MS(where I had the same problem) . My workaround was what was called FCC Submode and don’t recall the callback.
              And I-Hawk, thanks to you, too. I had the feeling that was what was happening. So, in 4.33 IA does not load the pod? BTW, I did check that the pod hardpoint power switch was on

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              • Agave_Blue
                Agave_Blue @drtbkj last edited by

                @drtbkj:

                Thx, Kolbe. I am referring to the Miss. Step button (as you say is described in p.54) . For some unknown reason, though MS does what it should in Nav and AA, it does not in AG (CCRP/CCIP/DTOS) . In 4.32 I was using SimMissileStep for MS(where I had the same problem) . My workaround was what was called FCC Submode and don’t recall the callback.
                And I-Hawk, thanks to you, too. I had the feeling that was what was happening.

                There must be some conflict somewhere …. with keyfile, HOTAS … something. Missile step has always worked as advertised for every user I know about (as I’m sure you know).

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                • drtbkj
                  drtbkj @Agave_Blue last edited by

                  @Agave_Blue:

                  . Missile step has always worked as advertised for every user I know about (as I’m sure you know).

                  Yes, Sir. Everyone except… yours Truly.:rolleyes: We had quite an interesting discussion about this over in FO, back in the day. Truly weird, and even weirder that it followed me to 4.33!
                  I suppose I’ll try to find the “FCC submode” call back and transplant it to 4.3. I wish I could just move my old keyfile over, but from what I’m reading that may not be a good thing.
                  While we’re at it, let’s triple check for operator error. If you’re in AG, Master Arm is armed, and you have a GP bomb or dumb cluster selected, the Miss Step button should cycle CCRP/CCIP/DTOS, correct?

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                  • Kolbe-49th
                    Kolbe-49th @drtbkj last edited by

                    Can you post your key file?

                    But please in quote tags 😉

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                    • drtbkj
                      drtbkj @Kolbe-49th last edited by

                      @Kolbe-49th:

                      Can you post your key file?

                      But please in quote tags 😉

                      Yes, Sir, and Thanks. I’ll do so when I get home. My plan for tonight is AR with my favorite beverage, and program my HOTAS!

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