Advanced Flight Model for other aircrafts!
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I’m back with the Su-27 completed and with slightly modified MIG-29 (A&S) for the engine thrust tables!
Here are the data files:
Here are the tables for Su-27:
I only hope I could’ve brought them better (more realistic) than the default values!
Cheers, good day!
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I’m back with the Su-27 completed and with slightly modified MIG-29 (A&S) for the engine thrust tables!
Here are the data files:
Here are the tables for Su-27:
I only hope I could’ve brought them better (more realistic) than the default values!
Cheers, good day!
I simply do not get your thrust char curves. These are MIL and full AB curves of AL-31. They are quite different from yours, especially tghe MIL thrust and full AB above M1.2.
In your chart MIL thrust increases with speed about up to M0.65 then decreasing. In the linked chard thrust decreasing up to ~M0.6 and above that is almost the same.
The thrust values in full AB curves are much higher above M1.1 in your chart than in the reference chart and the shape of curve below M0.5 is totally different.
Where did you find your curves?
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Very interesting thread…I wish I had the skills to deep dive into FM!
Keep up the good work! Good things await for those who endure!
Pepe
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Can you work on the f22 fm afm? I could install the f22 in the new BMS433 but it does not accept the latest fm from432 without CTD…
Regards Metalhead -
I’m back with the Su-27 completed and with slightly modified MIG-29 (A&S) for the engine thrust tables!
Here are the data files:
Here are the tables for Su-27:
I only hope I could’ve brought them better (more realistic) than the default values!
Cheers, good day!
Nice one, I’ll have a look tomorrow.
I look forward to it.
Regards
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Can you work on the f22 fm afm? I could install the f22 in the new BMS433 but it does not accept the latest fm from432 without CTD…
Regards MetalheadDid you add the vapor trails to the FM?
#----------------------------------------------------- # Vapor data #----------------------------------------------------- 0 #Total Number of vapor chains - MUST MATCH THE REAL NUMBER OF CHAINS DEFINED LATER OR YOU'LL GET CTDs! #
Regards
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No Sir, thanks, i will check it
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I still hope in SU-27 AFM version (advanced, beyond normal AOA flight regimes)… Is it much harder to make it?
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I simply do not get your thrust char curves. These are MIL and full AB curves of AL-31.
http://kepkezelo.com/images/938p9j53uw70sbpmzcew.png
http://kepkezelo.com/images/reodg2e1d59egy7mtbym.pngYou should have a look at 4.33 Su-27 FM…
All these curves (and more) have been injected in the 100% new OFM
The 4.33 performances values (level flight acceleration, sustained turn rates…) fit Su-27 performance manual charts at +/-5% at max (and in general +/-2.5%)
Only fuel flow has not been tuend so accuratly…
So if you want a “better” or “more accurate” Su-27 FM than the 4.33 one, you’ll need to have some evidence of its innacuracy. -
You should have a look at 4.33 Su-27 FM…
All these curves (and more) have been injected in the 100% new OFM
The 4.33 performances values (level flight acceleration, sustained turn rates…) fit Su-27 performance manual charts at +/-5% at max (and in general +/-2.5%)
Only fuel flow has not been tuend so accuratly…
So if you want a “better” or “more accurate” Su-27 FM than the 4.33 one, you’ll need to have some evidence of its innacuracy.I do not understand this comment. Are you saying my reference charts are not valid or you saing BMS4.33 uses these and posted data is inaccurate?
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Any chance this kind of work would fix the broken F-18 flight model if done ? Asking because flying F-18 right now is a pure waste of time, completely OP…
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Join Date Sep 2015 and already trying to piss some one off.
Its easy to be a critique with out showing proof, but don’t bother cause we know its not perfect but still a lot better then it was.
Good Day Sir.
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I quite like supercruising at 70,000ft in the hornet.
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I quite like supercruising at 70,000ft in the hornet.
hornet is Xwing due to mistake in AFM porting….
will be fixed or fly OFM
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hornet is Xwing due to mistake in AFM porting….
will be fixed or fly OFM
Is it possible to have AFM with non-F16 ACs? I thaught only one AFM can be active…so some tweaks/substitution necessary.
Su27 is OFM (means no cobras etc.)…OK?
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Is it possible to have AFM with non-F16 ACs? I thaught only one AFM can be active…so some tweaks/substitution necessary.
Su27 is OFM (means no cobras etc.)…OK?
any ac can have its own AFM… look at f18 or av8 (obviously for thrust vectoring)
the level of accuracy of them will be millions ligthyears behind f16 due to lack of data but at least it will give you something else than rigid on rail ofm
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ahhha… it was perhaps related to nonFBW AFM….we can have only one type of AFM active - FBW or nonFBW right? :idea:
BTW is there any Su-27 (even WIP) AFM FM available - for application of that clever alpha tweak (double kulbit, cobra, kolokol etc) …chinese simmer has posted nice videos about it (unfortunally with F-16 AFM IIRC)
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ahhha… it was perhaps related to nonFBW AFM….we can have only one type of AFM active - FBW or nonFBW right? :idea:
BTW is there any Su-27 (even WIP) AFM FM available - for application of that clever alpha tweak (double kulbit, cobra, kolokol etc) …chinese simmer has posted nice videos about it (unfortunally with F-16 AFM IIRC)
I guess ur talking about this? https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/showthread.php?22812-Su-35-Kulbit-Maneuver-Demo
Actually I planned to make a new one for Metalhead’s F-22 after 4.33 release. Also some coefficient tweak I think. But just as JP said, BMS offers a FM environment as rich as any other sim for a developper. Maybe we’ll see something with TVC integrated into FLCS in 3-4 weeks.