Massive FPS Loss
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Just for reference:
Everything maxxed out and 2560 x 160 resolution.
With video in both my MFD’s, 80 fps vs 120 with both off (BMS FPS counter)
-GTX 980ti the gpu runs at approx 90% and video memory 1.5-3.0 GB,
-CPU @4.5Ghz usage 2 cores 45-60% 2 cores 30-40% and 2 cores @ 5-10%Looks to me like its the gpu getting the workout.
Hm. I have a similar Setup ->
- Palit Geforce GTX 980 Ti Super Jetstream
- i7 5820k @ 4,0 Ghz
- 16 GB DDR4 RAM (2133 Mhz)
Playing with:
- WQHD Resolution
- BMS Cockpit Display Extraction on second monitor
- G-Sync is set, but doesn’t seem to work
- In-Game V-Sync deactivated / Multisampling deactivated
- Nvidia Settings 4x MSAA, 4x SPGSSAA, -1.000 LOD Bias (to avoid ugly AA issues)
I do only get around 40-50 FPS in the Landing Training TE (which starts close to the ground).
In campaign at Kimpo around 25 FPS
In the LGB Training TE around 55 FPS without TGP / 40 FPS with TGP (if I recall them numbers correctly)That’s MUCH less than I did expect - It run’s smooth though.
I did some perfunctory analysis on the CPU and GPU usage, but neither of both ever seems to go beyond 70%. It seems like something is wrong my (driver?) settings.@Icarus: did you use some special settings?
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I’ve tinkered and tinkered and tinkered for hours attempting to get a steady 60 during campaign/using TGP/Mav and have come to the conclusion that it will not happen under almost any circumstances. @ 1080p
I tend to run 40-50 in campaign and drop to 20 -35 with TGP on… And if I have TGP AND Mav/TFR on it gets almost unplayable.
I have a fairly decent setup: Win10 64/i5 4690k @4.2, MSI Gaming GTX 970, 16 gigs of RAM
Disabling this and that may gain me a few FPS here and there but overall it’s pretty abysmal.
Just want others to know with a similar setup to me that are having issues that you’re just going to have to deal.
Or on the other hand if someone with a similar setup to me is having fantastic results then please let me know and compare.
(This isn’t actually meant to be a whining post… Just a heads up to other people attempting to tinker their settings all day)
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You should be doing better, imho. I’m getting at least 10, maybe up to 20 fps more across the board.
My GPU is lower spec and a model older (760 GTX) and my CPU is similar build, but slower (3.7 GHz).
Like you, endlessly chasing settings. I can’t post them here …. I don’t have 'em on this PC. However, the last change I made, which did give a nice overall boost in the bad weather Mav TE was turning off Rain Rings and Far Rain.
Cockpit shadows, hi-res textures, clouds and particle sys, per pixel lighting are on. Moderate HDR, tree and grass sliders.
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I’ve noticed 9xx users seem to be getting worse results. Maybe has something to do with the maxwell architecture?
BMS seems to be BARELY using my GPU. It sits at around 40% max.
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Same here,
Max40% but still low fps -
When chasing frames is more important than playing the sim, there’s a problem. Turn the frame counter off and just play. Spend your time learning the new nuances of the avionics instead of staring at a (mostly) irrelevant number in the corner of the screen.
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I’ve tinkered and tinkered and tinkered for hours attempting to get a steady 60 during campaign/using TGP/Mav and have come to the conclusion that it will not happen under almost any circumstances. @ 1080p
I tend to run 40-50 in campaign and drop to 20 -35 with TGP on… And if I have TGP AND Mav/TFR on it gets almost unplayable.
I have a fairly decent setup: Win10 64/i5 4690k @4.2, MSI Gaming GTX 970, 16 gigs of RAM
Disabling this and that may gain me a few FPS here and there but overall it’s pretty abysmal.
Just want others to know with a similar setup to me that are having issues that you’re just going to have to deal.
Or on the other hand if someone with a similar setup to me is having fantastic results then please let me know and compare.
(This isn’t actually meant to be a whining post… Just a heads up to other people attempting to tinker their settings all day)
I have exactly your setup (but gigabyte Gtx 970 g1), but i never go under 35/40 fps with TGP and flir on (TFR training mission about 40fps). Anyway i am not satisfied as it should go much more faster with this setup (DCS A10C 1.5 beta for example is locked at 60 fps at 1440p) i have hi res textures off, no hdr, v-sync…can’t remember now as i am not home.
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When chasing frames is more important than playing the sim, there’s a problem. Turn the frame counter off and just play. Spend your time learning the new nuances of the avionics instead of staring at a (mostly) irrelevant number in the corner of the screen.
Yeah, i generally agree. However, I never looked at my frames in BMS in 4.32 because everything was smooth. I’m looking now in 4.33 (as i’m sure are others), because the decrease is resulting in an obvious degradation in play/smoothness. I think people’s reaction and attempt to justify the relatively low frames on powerful computers is normal.
Please don’t get me wrong, the changes are welcome and everything looks awesome. I am appreciative of threads like this to see what others are doing to improve their experience and to give me piece of mind that my brand new rig isn’t f-ing up somehow.
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When chasing frames is more important than playing the sim, there’s a problem. Turn the frame counter off and just play. Spend your time learning the new nuances of the avionics instead of staring at a (mostly) irrelevant number in the corner of the screen.
I generally agree with you. But like Harlequin pointed out, when it degrades the experience, or I feel the need to be conservative with TGP and Mav screens it does take me a bit out of the sim. Never started counting frames until recently.
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I generally agree with you. But like Harlequin pointed out, when it degrades the experience, or I feel the need to be conservative with TGP and Mav screens it does take me a bit out of the sim. Never started counting frames until recently.
+1
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I Recomend NVIDIA , my old gtx660 2Gb runs 2560x1440 rez avarage fps 40-60 in campaing over flot in day one. All settings on, only Motion Blur off.
AA set in game, level 4
Intel 3570K oc to 4,2ghz now
And 12gb of ramAll SSD drives
Win10 64bit pro
What is your original CPU clock speed?
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What is your original CPU click speed?
Stock is 3,5ghz and 3,8ghz turbo clock if i remeber right
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I’m not sure if this will help everyone
I seem to be getting a FPS boost when I use processor lasso – initially have been using it for CMANO -left it on and got a boost -game felt much less laggy
Ade
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How to get more FPS AND get Falcon bms 4.33 to look BETTER:
1. Nvidia control panel: Set: Prefer maximum performance.
2. Falcon BMS setup-graphics: Trees and grass sliders to zero.
3. Falcon configuration: Rain rings uncheck, Far rain uncheck, Reduce particle system check.
Better looking and higher fps.
Cheers!
/Jaws
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I should read this thread before I buy gtx970.
now it is too late.It is true somehow gtx970 does not work well with bms4.33.
Compared to my previous card: gtx560, gtx970 only add 5-6fps.
https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/showthread.php?24925-GTX970-owner-please-post-your-fps -
Sad to hear that. I was looking for a solution and was onto upgrading. Thx for sharing as it saves me money. TFR TE all on 28 fps. intel 3770, gtx 670, 1920x1080, ssd.
It just seems it doesnt react that much to hardware. Setting high performance in the nvidia control panel is what boosts the most in my setup.Hope you get to run better.
Cheers!!
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I have an i7-3770 (non-k model…locked via BIOS to the “turbo” speed of 3.9GHz) paired with a ASUS Strix 2GB GTX960 at stock clocks and 8GB of ancient RAM. I have almost all eye-candy turned ON with the exception of smoke shadows and cloud reflections on water (because I just personally dislike the reflections). In the campaign, even with terrible weather and the TGP/WPN pages on, I never drop below 30FPS. Even over the FLOT. South of the FLOT on ingress/egress I’m locked at 60FPS no matter what.
As you can see, my PC is very modest but I’m able to get great performance in 4.33 and many other games. Some of the other games I play and the performance I get:
Shadow of Morder, Ultra preset: 60FPS
Sniper Elite 3, Ultra preset: 60FPS
Watch Dogs, Ultra preset: 60FPS
Arma 2 OA, Most settings maxed: 40-60FPS
FSX with REX, FTX Global and Vector, ASN, and the PMDG NGX flying out of Flightbeam KDEN, All FSX settings maxed: 30-40FPS
Silent Hunter V5, Ultra preset: 60FPS
The list goes on…My secret? I keep my PC EXTREMELY clean. No adware, no malware, no viruses. Very deep and thorough scans on a regular basis using various free software. I also keep it physically clean by blowing out dust on a regular basis and always ensuring I have adequate cooling. No unnecessary software running at any given time. Regular defrags on HDDs. Windows running on a dedicated SSD. It all adds up to a high performing PC even with moderate/mid-range hardware.
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I have some weird issue I cant figure out with fps.
My frames drop from mid 30’s down to 5-8 while just flying around. Just installed 4.33 yesterday so I haven’t tried to optimize setting yet, but I should be getting better frames than that.Only other game currently installed is Arma 3 and I run that on ultra high and maintain 40-45 fps.
Forgot specs
Win 10
GTX 750 TI
8GB ram
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This is most unlikely true… One key thing to remember is not all drivers are created equal. You have just added a ton more overhead and you got an improvement as well. Pretty fair trade IMO. It’s a great card and it should last you for some time.
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the worst fps loss is FLIR and TGP.
playing the TFR training mission with no FLIR, I get 47fps.
playing the TFR training mission with FLIR on HUD, I get 24fps.
FPS loss: 47-24 = 23playing the LGB training mission with TGP off, I get 60fps.
playing the LGB training mission with TGP on, I get 40fps.
FPS loss: 60-40 = 20and by changing the vga card from gtx560 to gtx970,
this fps loss stays more or less the same.so this must be more affected by cpu?
is this correct?