Massive FPS Loss
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970 is a great, great card. Can’t guarantee for BMS, because, like I said, my FPS suffer, under certain conditions. And I more and more suspect that my AMD CPU is the culprit for that (yes, it’s overclocked to 4 ghz, but it’s far nonetheless from computational power of an i5 or i7).
But 970, per se, is a great product. You won’t regret it.
I hope, but I do not expect any change actually. This card is just the first peace of my future new configuration.
For the moment (with the GTX260) I am around 25 - 40fps (average over land in campaign) … so I am already rather okay. Now, if I can earn few fps, I will be even more happy. But as I said, with just a new GFX (even if it is a GTX970), I do not expect miracles.
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Yeah, that’s why I dream of Skylake for Christmas. Should make wife go away a couple of hours though to install it so that she doesn’t notice the change in the rig
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You also can get the GTX-960 with 4 GB RAM…
I tried to find a benchmark / test to compare R9-380 and GTX-960 with *4 GB RAM, but I couldn’t.http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-r9-390x-r9-380-r7-370,4178-6.html
http://nl.hardware.info/reviews/6169/6/amd-radeon-r9-380-asus-vs-msi-vs-sapphire-benchmarks-3dmark–battlefield-4
http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R9-380-vs-GeForce-GTX-960 -
I did some testing to make sure the CPU is not the bottleneck, please shoot!
2 training missions with camera / stuttering @fps <60
and same without camera…fps constant 60…no stutter
Obvious is that rendering camera’s also takes al lot of CPU power, does the CPU comes to it knees in first example?
Did test the R9 380 and I am disappointed, same stutter even more, GTX 960 is much faster for BMS.
FYI: As a final resort I did set ‘g_bDoubleRTTResolution’ to 0 and that gave some 10 fps gain but (same processor load) most important more smoothness. Gonna miss the Hires Hud though, cést la vie.!
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I’m not surprised that performance is worse on AMD GPUs. They neglected their DX9 drivers and I could never get acceptable performance in DCS on my 6950. With the beta, which uses DX11, it’s much better. I think BMS will be OK though as it has many more options to turn stuff down/off and if not I’ll just have to get an Nvidia card when I upgrade.
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hi lawndart,
what’s configuration of pc do you have please for obtain this level of fps ?
i see an article of technology of nvidia
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/gpu-boost-2
i think that technology would been upgrade the power of our game new generation
please follow this mail at other person for test and i 'm think to go to this technology for my future deal
tks
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Same here, I’ll probably go next with an NVIDIA GPU for my next upgrade.
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I Recomend NVIDIA , my old gtx660 2Gb runs 2560x1440 rez avarage fps 40-60 in campaing over flot in day one. All settings on, only Motion Blur off.
AA set in game, level 4
Intel 3570K oc to 4,2ghz now
And 12gb of ramAll SSD drives
Win10 64bit pro
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Just for reference:
Everything maxxed out and 2560 x 160 resolution.
With video in both my MFD’s, 80 fps vs 120 with both off (BMS FPS counter)
-GTX 980ti the gpu runs at approx 90% and video memory 1.5-3.0 GB,
-CPU @4.5Ghz usage 2 cores 45-60% 2 cores 30-40% and 2 cores @ 5-10%Looks to me like its the gpu getting the workout.
Hm. I have a similar Setup ->
- Palit Geforce GTX 980 Ti Super Jetstream
- i7 5820k @ 4,0 Ghz
- 16 GB DDR4 RAM (2133 Mhz)
Playing with:
- WQHD Resolution
- BMS Cockpit Display Extraction on second monitor
- G-Sync is set, but doesn’t seem to work
- In-Game V-Sync deactivated / Multisampling deactivated
- Nvidia Settings 4x MSAA, 4x SPGSSAA, -1.000 LOD Bias (to avoid ugly AA issues)
I do only get around 40-50 FPS in the Landing Training TE (which starts close to the ground).
In campaign at Kimpo around 25 FPS
In the LGB Training TE around 55 FPS without TGP / 40 FPS with TGP (if I recall them numbers correctly)That’s MUCH less than I did expect - It run’s smooth though.
I did some perfunctory analysis on the CPU and GPU usage, but neither of both ever seems to go beyond 70%. It seems like something is wrong my (driver?) settings.@Icarus: did you use some special settings?
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I’ve tinkered and tinkered and tinkered for hours attempting to get a steady 60 during campaign/using TGP/Mav and have come to the conclusion that it will not happen under almost any circumstances. @ 1080p
I tend to run 40-50 in campaign and drop to 20 -35 with TGP on… And if I have TGP AND Mav/TFR on it gets almost unplayable.
I have a fairly decent setup: Win10 64/i5 4690k @4.2, MSI Gaming GTX 970, 16 gigs of RAM
Disabling this and that may gain me a few FPS here and there but overall it’s pretty abysmal.
Just want others to know with a similar setup to me that are having issues that you’re just going to have to deal.
Or on the other hand if someone with a similar setup to me is having fantastic results then please let me know and compare.
(This isn’t actually meant to be a whining post… Just a heads up to other people attempting to tinker their settings all day)
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You should be doing better, imho. I’m getting at least 10, maybe up to 20 fps more across the board.
My GPU is lower spec and a model older (760 GTX) and my CPU is similar build, but slower (3.7 GHz).
Like you, endlessly chasing settings. I can’t post them here …. I don’t have 'em on this PC. However, the last change I made, which did give a nice overall boost in the bad weather Mav TE was turning off Rain Rings and Far Rain.
Cockpit shadows, hi-res textures, clouds and particle sys, per pixel lighting are on. Moderate HDR, tree and grass sliders.
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I’ve noticed 9xx users seem to be getting worse results. Maybe has something to do with the maxwell architecture?
BMS seems to be BARELY using my GPU. It sits at around 40% max.
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Same here,
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When chasing frames is more important than playing the sim, there’s a problem. Turn the frame counter off and just play. Spend your time learning the new nuances of the avionics instead of staring at a (mostly) irrelevant number in the corner of the screen.
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I’ve tinkered and tinkered and tinkered for hours attempting to get a steady 60 during campaign/using TGP/Mav and have come to the conclusion that it will not happen under almost any circumstances. @ 1080p
I tend to run 40-50 in campaign and drop to 20 -35 with TGP on… And if I have TGP AND Mav/TFR on it gets almost unplayable.
I have a fairly decent setup: Win10 64/i5 4690k @4.2, MSI Gaming GTX 970, 16 gigs of RAM
Disabling this and that may gain me a few FPS here and there but overall it’s pretty abysmal.
Just want others to know with a similar setup to me that are having issues that you’re just going to have to deal.
Or on the other hand if someone with a similar setup to me is having fantastic results then please let me know and compare.
(This isn’t actually meant to be a whining post… Just a heads up to other people attempting to tinker their settings all day)
I have exactly your setup (but gigabyte Gtx 970 g1), but i never go under 35/40 fps with TGP and flir on (TFR training mission about 40fps). Anyway i am not satisfied as it should go much more faster with this setup (DCS A10C 1.5 beta for example is locked at 60 fps at 1440p) i have hi res textures off, no hdr, v-sync…can’t remember now as i am not home.
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When chasing frames is more important than playing the sim, there’s a problem. Turn the frame counter off and just play. Spend your time learning the new nuances of the avionics instead of staring at a (mostly) irrelevant number in the corner of the screen.
Yeah, i generally agree. However, I never looked at my frames in BMS in 4.32 because everything was smooth. I’m looking now in 4.33 (as i’m sure are others), because the decrease is resulting in an obvious degradation in play/smoothness. I think people’s reaction and attempt to justify the relatively low frames on powerful computers is normal.
Please don’t get me wrong, the changes are welcome and everything looks awesome. I am appreciative of threads like this to see what others are doing to improve their experience and to give me piece of mind that my brand new rig isn’t f-ing up somehow.
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When chasing frames is more important than playing the sim, there’s a problem. Turn the frame counter off and just play. Spend your time learning the new nuances of the avionics instead of staring at a (mostly) irrelevant number in the corner of the screen.
I generally agree with you. But like Harlequin pointed out, when it degrades the experience, or I feel the need to be conservative with TGP and Mav screens it does take me a bit out of the sim. Never started counting frames until recently.
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I generally agree with you. But like Harlequin pointed out, when it degrades the experience, or I feel the need to be conservative with TGP and Mav screens it does take me a bit out of the sim. Never started counting frames until recently.
+1
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I Recomend NVIDIA , my old gtx660 2Gb runs 2560x1440 rez avarage fps 40-60 in campaing over flot in day one. All settings on, only Motion Blur off.
AA set in game, level 4
Intel 3570K oc to 4,2ghz now
And 12gb of ramAll SSD drives
Win10 64bit pro
What is your original CPU clock speed?