Fast track manual
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Is there any fast track manual for beginners with some flight sim experience, say how to down you first enemy in 30-60 minutes ?
30-60 hours minimum
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Not unless the enemy is the tanker… at which point you’d probably down him after the first 5-10 minutes of frustratingly trying to connect to the boom!
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Not unless the enemy is the tanker… at which point you’d probably down him after the first 5-10 minutes of frustratingly trying to connect to the boom!
And I thought that was just me doing that…. I have heaps of tanker kills painted on the side of my Viper
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And I thought that was just me doing that…. I have heaps of tanker kills painted on the side of my Viper
And, indeed, a huge debt with US Government… as all BMS Viper Drivers I think (I owe the US Government some 90-100 KC-135s :rofl:)
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And I thought that was just me doing that…. I have heaps of tanker kills painted on the side of my Viper
LOL…“I’m on your side, jackass!” … “You’re busted Mister” … “Kiss your career goodbye” … “Hey! Watch out” … “What are you doing?” … there’s no problem a little 20 Mike Mike wont solve. Nagging ass Bitch on ATC gets some on occasion from me …
I dont cap the tanker anymore though since I am an AAR master (see my Youtube chnl) …
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LOL…“I’m on your side, jackass!” … “You’re busted Mister” … “Kiss your career goodbye” … “Hey! Watch out” … “What are you doing?” … there’s no problem a little 20 Mike Mike wont solve. Nagging ass Bitch on ATC gets some on occasion from me …
I dont cap the tanker anymore though since I am an AAR master (see my Youtube chnl) …
Ah… Lost case … (hehehe):twisted: -due to tanker pr0n
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I’d stay away from the manual for the first couple of days…get on discord and look up falcon lounge…meet some people…don’t look at squadrons yet…meet te community and go fly…learn the basics. First see if you like the game. After you get settled in and meet some friends (who are probably new like you) everything will fall into place. After that you can read a bit of the manual and start perfecting your skills.
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I’d stay away from the manual for the first couple of days…get on discord and look up falcon lounge…meet some people…don’t look at squadrons yet…meet te community and go fly…learn the basics. First see if you like the game. After you get settled in and meet some friends (who are probably new like you) everything will fall into place. After that you can read a bit of the manual and start perfecting your skills.
How can someone expect to get airborne without a single glance in the manual and without becoming a permanent landscape feature within the first 5 minutes?
That would take some SERIOUS hand holding over MP and IVC. (Pull the gear switch… no, the big lolly pop one on your left. Yes the one with the red light on it… Oh that noise? Never mind that was just your gear being yanked off … okay moving on from there…)
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Watch some YouTube videos if you can’t grasp certain things…I’ve learned nothing from the manual personally…everything was done with the help of a great community. With that learned knowledge I help others learn. No hand holding…just a helping hand ��.
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The good thing is that manuals are there for those who need them and videos and/or MP spoonfeeding is there for these who prefer
So trying to convince one or the other part is pointless.I think i have quite a bit of experience writing manuals and the reason why i never considered writing a fatstrack manual is simply because i believe it would be thicker than the rest of the publications and therefore pointless
What i do already considered is a manual to get airborne quickly - from installation of BMS through the hotas ordeal and the basic UI things to know before go flying. Still the spectrum is very large mainly due to the hundreths way one can manage the keyfile and the hotas…
and i have bigger fish to fryI’ve learned nothing from the manual personally…
There is one reason for that - you did not read them.
I can teach you minute details you don’t even suspect - and these are in the manualsif videos work best for you, that’s nice - but you don’t have to spit on the manuals for the same reason
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Watch some YouTube videos if you can’t grasp certain things…I’ve learned nothing from the manual personally…everything was done with the help of a great community. With that learned knowledge I help others learn. No hand holding…just a helping hand ������.
You’ve obviously not read them! Alot of the “instructional” videos on Youtube are crap - one mans interpretation of how to do something can and often is so far removed from reality they are for laughing at only.
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It’s not that I’m not going to read the manual, it’s actually something someone must do, those are amazing manuals loaded with information…and I will read them with a better understanding of what it’s talking about. What I’m trying to get at.as a brand new player, it becomes very discouraging to just begin with reading a book without first experiencing a bit of the basics of actual bms gameplay. Once you figure out that hey, I actually enjoy this! Then the study portion becomes something that is enjoyable. For me hands on becomes easier as I played around with DCS A-10c so it carries over nicely. The sole reason who so many people turn away from BMS (and other sims of this nature) is because they are told to read the book…see how thick it is, and walk away. New players shouldn’t overwhelm themselves with too much, just take it step by step.
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You can always jump straight away into Instant Action …. but if you don’t know how to slew radar elevation, cursor, TMS Up to lock, Master Arm on, etc., it’s not going to be very satisfying. There is no ‘arcade mode’.
IMHO, the Training Manual and associated missions, along with some focused YouTube searches are the best way for a ‘quick’ start.
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You’ve obviously not read them! Alot of the “instructional” videos on Youtube are crap - one mans interpretation of how to do something can and often is so far removed from reality they are for laughing at only.
True enough…except for MY videos of course …
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The sole reason who so many people turn away from BMS (and other sims of this nature) is because they are told to read the book…see how thick it is, and walk away.
actually, bms 4.32 didn’t have a manual suite and it was even harder to learn the sim. And there is no reason to believe that the rate of ppl being put off by bms was any different,
so imho the the manual have nothing do do with it.I remember 25 years ago, the quality of a sim was judged by the size of its manual
nowadays ppl can’t read for more than 5 minutes. evolution -
I know about practice. Learning stuff.
But look I the Rc Plane clubs. They are dying because the old ppl who spends a winter or 2 to build fantastic models they rarely fly dominate. I am younger at 50. For me it is about the flying. Love my 900mm wing. Toss into the car. Drive. Power on, and I can fly FPV in 3 minutes. My larger planes flies longer and further but needs more planning.Quad guys also just pops out their quads and starts to fly. The battle aspect is important for them, and hopefully we can get some of them converted by making it easier to start. Some of them fly small foam planes as well. Because they can be flown with little preparation.
Looking at my oldest son, he will never have the patience to find out if he likes it or not.
That’s a whole other arguement I don’t want to even get into ha. I’m 30, so younger than you, but I see all the newbies to the RC hobby just buying a ‘drone’ from the highstreet. I fly 3D 90 size helicopters and learned on a (albeit heading hold) gyro and flybar. Now, people just fly a quad because it’s easier and don’t want to learn. I see the same in this sim more and more. You son is an example; it seems the teens of this generation have little patience, and I thought that I was bad enough. I have very little patience when I want something I’ve bought etc., but learning and progressing is part of the sim. A BIG part.:)
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I’d stay away from the manual for the first couple of days…get on discord and look up falcon lounge…meet some people…don’t look at squadrons yet…meet te community and go fly…learn the basics. First see if you like the game. After you get settled in and meet some friends (who are probably new like you) everything will fall into place. After that you can read a bit of the manual and start perfecting your skills.
I’m sorry but that’s the silliest advice I’ve ever heard. Go to Discord and get them to help you with every step? That’s asking a lot from someone’s free time! If you can’t spend the few minutes or hours to do some studying on your own, how can you ask others to do your work for you?
So you hook up with some guys on Discord…. do you know how to connect to an MP flight? Do you know how to open ports? Is your HOTAS configured correctly? Once past that step, how much hand-holding do you really need? Can you manage enough not to lawn-dart within 10nm from the base? Do you know how to adjust your radar scan? Do you know how to go to MRM or DGFT mode?
Watch some YouTube videos if you can’t grasp certain things…I’ve learned nothing from the manual personally…everything was done with the help of a great community. With that learned knowledge I help others learn. No hand holding…just a helping hand ������.
And how do you know that the YT video you just watched contained the correct information? How do you know that the info you are passing on is correct if you don’t refer to the manual?
It’s not that I’m not going to read the manual, it’s actually something someone must do, those are amazing manuals loaded with information…and I will read them with a better understanding of what it’s talking about. What I’m trying to get at.as a brand new player, it becomes very discouraging to just begin with reading a book without first experiencing a bit of the basics of actual bms gameplay. Once you figure out that hey, I actually enjoy this! Then the study portion becomes something that is enjoyable. For me hands on becomes easier as I played around with DCS A-10c so it carries over nicely. The sole reason who so many people turn away from BMS (and other sims of this nature) is because they are told to read the book…see how thick it is, and walk away. New players shouldn’t overwhelm themselves with too much, just take it step by step.
This is something that I agree with! I’ve lost so many players for board games and RPG games by plunking down the entire manual or player’s handbook in front of them. However, a new BMS player does not have to consume all the manuals in one go. “Eat the elephant one bite at a time,” so crack open the **BMS-Training.pdf manual right away and start from there.
As a community, it’s much easier to help someone who has cracked open the manuals…. even if it didn’t make much sense for them… than it is to help someone who doesn’t even try to help himself.**
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@Red:
I remember 25 years ago, the quality of a sim was judged by the size of its manual
nowadays ppl can’t read for more than 5 minutes. evolutionIt’s a generational thing. Most kids nowadays want everything yesterday, and they want it for free. Why waste time searching for it and reading a book when I can just google it or watch it on Youtube? When I were a lad getting into sims in the early 90s, if you didn’t read the manual you weren’t flying the sim. No ifs. No buts. Lazy bastards nowadays want instant gratification. It’s the same on these forums - how many people come and ask the simplest of questions cos they simply can’t be bothered to search for it either in the threads or in the manuals? They want to be spoon-fed all the time, cos they are too bloody lazy to do the hard work themselves. Crazy thing is, if they actually got the books out, they’d find their answers (and probably a whole lot more to boot) alot quicker than waiting for someone to reply with an answer that may or may not actually be the right one!
No apologies for this mini-rant either, it really grates me and I wish to thank BMS Forum mods for allowing me the platform to get this off my chest!
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