C'mon, 4.38-- I'm ready for ya now.
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@SoBad said in C’mon, 4.38-- I’m ready for ya now.:
AMD Ryzen 7700X
holycow I was kinda waiting for the first report of Ryzen 7900X3D … the L3 cache on that is roughly equal to the pages BMS touches each frame.
but your numbers are already more than I would have bet, for 7900X3D … lol
Hardware: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X @ 3.70Ghz, 32Mb RAM, Radeon RX 580,
yeah you got quite an upgrade there, vs the hardware in your sig!
hmm… I guess my Intel 9700 is about 4 years old …
what mobo did you go with?
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@Mylonite470 I’m also eagerly awaiting 4.38.
It’s very exciting times for sure. Just wish the dev team could share some info on what. 38 actually is and what it isn’t. That along with some screens and videos. -
@SoBad impressive setup. BMS still loves strong CPU. IIRC I-Hawk said RTX 3060 should be enough to enjoy 4.38 (assuming no VR).
@airtex2019
If you’re thinking about similar upgrade, stay away from ASUS boards
It seems GigaByte and MSI are safe bet, Asrock boards are compelling too, due price vs features. Personally I’m thinking about some Asrock B650E board.
In the end more important question is, what RAM modules are used, esp what are the timings. That’s where most of the perf difference coming on AMD platform. -
@Xeno said in C’mon, 4.38-- I’m ready for ya now.:
@SoBad impressive setup. BMS still loves strong CPU. IIRC I-Hawk said RTX 3060 should be enough to enjoy 4.38 (assuming no VR).
@airtex2019
If you’re thinking about similar upgrade, stay away from ASUS boards
It seems GigaByte and MSI are safe bet, Asrock boards are compelling too, due price vs features. Personally I’m thinking about some Asrock B650E board.
In the end more important question is, what RAM modules are used, esp what are the timings. That’s where most of the perf difference coming on AMD platform.Well, I like Gigabyte normally but this Asus board allowed me to port over my 64 GB of DDR4 memory from my “old” box and has been flawless… and be wary of MSI if you have a Gigabyte video card, my last one had a conflict and would not allow me in BIOS with the card installed, ended up tossing it. Known issue, may be resolved now.
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Overall, seems it’s a good moment to upgrade computers as prices are dropping and there’s stock.
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@Icer
Take a look at Gamers Nexus burned R9 7950X3D CPUs investigation. ASUS screwed up this pretty bad and handled the situation quite poorly too.
Back in a days where I was a tech in a PC parts shop, I disliked ASUS boards because of noticeable higher issues rate. Also then RMA process was done pretty bad, with boards having persisting issues 'till warranty expired despite going trough multiple repairs.
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@SoBad said in C’mon, 4.38-- I’m ready for ya now.:
my old faithful Saitek X65F
Yes, I’m going to use mine until it either stops being supported or they all die. Apparently it still works on Win11 so we have at least 5 years probably still out of them!
4.38 and BMS VR is part of the reason I short cycled my upgrades to my current system when I had an i7-9700kf and 3090, I expect some life changes with the kids getting driving and college age soon so figured it was time to be on the last bleeding edge for awhile so I don’t have to worry about it for a few years hopefully.
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@Xeno can’t speak for anything but my ASUS Tuf Gaming Z790-PLUS D4 board w/ i9-13900 KF, has been flawless since Day 1. Over the years I had issues with ASUS and MSI, never with Gigabyte, so I always use Gigabyte when possible. In the case of my latest build, ASUS offered a PCIe5 board with DDR4 support, 2.5GB ethernet, and some nice features where GB did not (at least not one I could find a supply of), so I tried it and could not be more pleased with the performance… saved me the cost of 64GB DDR5 memory, so basically paid for itself.
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@SoBad thanks for this. Now I know what to build
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@SoBad Enjoy your new system! It’s a very impressive build.
Just out of curiosity, how far away do you sit from your 50" screen? I have a 32" screen but I’m tempted to get a bigger one.
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@Munster - I’ll just share with you my suggestions based on endless trial-and-error, experience, and personal preferences.
I want to sit close enough to a large monitor that it fills up my main area of vision. This makes it easier for me to “lose myself” in that perceptual reality the monitor represents.
I’ve found, however, that if you sit close to a monitor bigger than 50", you can perceive the pixels, which of course ruins the realism.
Through much experimentation, I’ve found the “sweet spot”, for me, to be a 50" monitor @ 4096x2160 at ~30" away. Your mileage may vary.
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@SoBad
My little own, dear mate, if I may say so:
you will live until 5.o at least, no matter anything else.
And you will become “SoBetter” in this while, like good wines usually do. Who knows.With best wishes of good health and regards.
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Congrats on the great build!! Wonderful specs, might even be more than your display(s) can keep up with, their Hz rate will be the maximum FPS they will be able to display. I know going from a 75Hz panel to a 144Hz panel was like night and day for me, especially once I finally got a graphics card capable of playing games at greater than 100FPS.
Best wishes and have fun, old friend!!
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@danaos75 said in C’mon, 4.38-- I’m ready for ya now.:
@SoBad I really enjoyed reading your post. It is almost identical of the setup I opt for by the end of the year. Can you do me a huge favor? Run the 1st maverick training mission and once airborne turn on both tgp and maverick camera and write back here the fps results as displayed on bms. Thanks
Under your scenario, with all settings maxxed, both MFDs in view as well as the outside of the pit in view, ~130fps.
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@airtex2019 said in C’mon, 4.38-- I’m ready for ya now.:
what mobo did you go with?
ASUS Prime X670 WiFi
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Thanks for describing your personal “sweet spot” for monitor size, placement, and resolution, @SoBad ! It’s great that you have found a set of parameters which work well for you.
I’ve come to believe that when a person finds a set of “monitor parameters” that fit them well, the rest of the system can be designed around feeding that monitor.
My “sweet spot for the moment” is an ASUS G-Sync 27" 144Hz 2560x1440 monitor, placed about 22.5" (about 57cm) from my eyes. I don’t plan to get a new monitor as part of my new PC build; instead it will be designed around feeding that monitor a consistently high frame rate without tearing, etc…
But maybe someday I’ll find a new “monitor sweet spot”, and perhaps it will be more like yours! If so, then… oh dear, maybe I will have to order an even more expensive GPU! Oh well, that’s the price we pay for making BMS (and other applications) look as beautiful as possible
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3-4 falcon weeks, top
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@Mylonite470 Don’t forget to take into consideration the FOV. There are online tools to calculate a recommended FOV based on your monitor size and the distance you have the monitor from your eyes like this one.
Or you can go with trial and error until you find your sweet spot, of course.
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@Ferde said in C’mon, 4.38-- I’m ready for ya now.:
@Mylonite470 Don’t forget to take into consideration the FOV. There are online tools to calculate a recommended FOV based on your monitor size and the distance you have the monitor from your eyes like this one.
Or you can go with trial and error until you find your sweet spot, of course.
I get some really strange numbers from that calculator… By “Bezel size”, not sure if it means the thickness of the plastic itself (1mm for each) or the blackout area of the outer edge (assume it’s this, 10mm). I have curved screens fairly well aligned to create an even arc (as shown in the bottom picture on that site)…
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@Icer I’m sorry, I just put the first it came on the search. It’s for car simulation, so maybe the recommended FOV is different? I don’t know.
As for the bezel,the page says down below: Bezel width: the size of the side-bezels surrounding your screen in mm. This is needed for triple screen setups, but isn’t important for single screens.
So I guess is the plastic.Edit: looking a bit more to see if I find one specific for flight sims I’ve found some people play with the monitor distance and FOV until some cockpit element of reference (MFD for instance) has approximately the same size as seen in real life.