Sukhoi Su-27/Su-33/Su-35 Shenyang J-11/J-15
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Hello,
some news :
Back spine is now fully done. A lot of adjustments were also achieved on the structure.
I have to adjust wings and work on the landing gear.
Stay tuned !
Radium
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Your models and texturing are absolutely Radium!
Can’t wait for this baby to be in BMS!
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Seems that some progress on the Iranian front is made with the Su-35SK.
https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2023/03/10/699635/Iran-Russia-Sukhoi-fighter-jets-mission-UN-Sputnik-deal -
@Radium said in Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35 Shenyang J-11/J-15/J-16:
Hello,
some news :
Back spine is now fully done. A lot of adjustments were also achieved on the structure.
I have to adjust wings and work on the landing gear.
Stay tuned !
Radium
Cold War skin is the best.
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@molnibalage said in Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35 Shenyang J-11/J-15/J-16:
Cold War skin is the best.
Totally agree!!
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@Radium
Hey!!
Had some problems with J-15 fm/afm. (Balkans th. , but same acdata/model in KTO).
Since it is Su-33 (a)fm , applies the same.What happens is engine(s) stall damage when “jerking” aoa/negG on big alt >25-30kft , and speed >1mach.
Just crank it up ~30kft full throt/ab , then rock the plane a bit - just as soon “enough” negG? - both/single engine stall / damage.,
sometimes one, left/right, sometimes both.(btw, engine damage smoking is reversed, left engine smokes but right is stalled and vice versa)
You have some updated fm/afm , or is it final ?
Cheers
And, Oh YES, , nice “Cobra” with paddle !!!
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and weapons, this doesn’t do with you, … but it is completely too sensitive in BMS… just jerk around too little and already damaged weapons/hardpoints … completely sensless
I’ve seen fully loaded Su-33/35 doing cobra on demos… do that in BMS - kiss your weapons MAL -
also , had to update CSS-N-8(YJ-83K) (misdata) - you’ve used AGM-84 SLAM data - in 3D they are falling short ~+60nm… for range sake should used SLAM-ER , imho better fit - now they cruise nicely
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Hello white_fang,
will have a look about it !
@TOPOLO , @Mav-jp do you have an idea ?
Gentlemen, here is some news :
Exterior model is now ready. All modifications to shift from Su-33 to Su-27 were done, texture is now on the final stage. I also reused my Lavi’s afterburner system for this Su-27. IRST was also centered, as it should be on my Su-27.
Also, after thinking about it, we will have a unique Su-27S model, for Su-27. Reason is simple : I know that some late Su-27 were produced, like SM/SM2/SM3, but I have no idea if they were even mass produced. Also, J-11 is a derivative of Su-27SK, then Su-27S. Also, because I do not want to have two models for DB (an error I did in the past for Su-35), I want to do only one single model. Also, I consider that later Su-27 series in BMS will be represented by my Su-35.
I also just finished to update main landing gear, I will start now the specific nose landing great.
Then, we will be ready for betatest !
Stay tuned,
Radium
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@Radium said in Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35 Shenyang J-11/J-15/J-16:
Hello white_fang,
will have a look about it !
@TOPOLO , @Mav-jp do you have an idea ?
Gentlemen, here is some news :
Exterior model is now ready. All modifications to shift from Su-33 to Su-27 were done, texture is now on the final stage. I also reused my Lavi’s afterburner system for this Su-27. IRST was also centered, as it should be on my Su-27.
Also, after thinking about it, we will have a unique Su-27S model, for Su-27. Reason is simple : I know that some late Su-27 were produced, like SM/SM2/SM3, but I have no idea if they were even mass produced. Also, J-11 is a derivative of Su-27SK, then Su-27S. Also, because I do not want to have two models for DB (an error I did in the past for Su-35), I want to do only one single model. Also, I consider that later Su-27 series in BMS will be represented by my Su-35.
I also just finished to update main landing gear, I will start now the specific nose landing great.
Then, we will be ready for betatest !
Stay tuned,
Radium
There were 48 Su-27S converted to SM standard for the RuAF. 12 SM3 aircraft were built from knock down kits originally produced by KnAAPO for the SAC assembly line and the 3 or so Su-27SKM for Indonesia were also built from those kits, which were retained by KnAPPO after the Chinese ceased licence production of the Su-27SK (J-11A). Su-27SM2 was a never realised major upgrade proposal utilising technology from the Su-35S. It might be noteworthy that the SM had its IRST offset to the right and the SKM and SM3 were also equiped with IFRPs.
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@Scorpion82 Hello, very interesting, thank you for this info. So, a Su-27S was definitely the best choice !
Radium
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@Radium
you are welcome. Would it be possible to create a second skin set with white di-electric fin tips and nose radome as well? -
@Scorpion82 Hello,
Not sure I understood, nevertheless, alongside with the livery I am doing, I will do :
- Russia VVS white nose blue camo Sukhoi Su-27P - 1995
- Russia VVS late three colors camo Su-27SM - 2020
- Ukraine PSZS Su-27 splinter camo Su-27S - 1995
- Chinese PLAAF license built Shenyang J-11 - 2005
Cheers,
Radium
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@Radium Master!
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@Radium I do not believe anything need to be changed in Su-33/J-15 FM: As a general rule negative AoA in supersonic is prohibited, we clearly have no idea what would happe IRL with a Su-27/33…, but i do not see any reason why engine should not stall in such condition
I will try to take care of your Su-27 as soon as you complete it (and as soon as I recover my network connection… I’m still waiting after 3 months for that)
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@TOPOLO said in Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35 Shenyang J-11/J-15/J-16:
I do not believe anything need to be changed in Su-33/J-15 FM: As a general rule negative AoA in supersonic is prohibited, we clearly have no idea what would happe IRL with a Su-27/33…, but i do not see any reason why engine should not stall in such condition
Yeah I’m on same page… but … of course there is a but, … it doesn’t happen in F-16 tho
Imho, fm needs a tweak, or soften aoa limiter for M+.
Seeing all acro manev this birds can take…
For God’s sake , it is a STIFF RUSSIAN BIRD… and not some pansy sorry ass paper plane.
(btw one other dcs sim doesn’t have such … problems)
Just my 22kopeyke,Cheers
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There exists a Su-27SK manual on the internet. It possibly has an answer to that question.
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Hello everyone,
So, here we are :
Basically, everything is here. I am still not fully satisfied with the nose gear, I feel that I will have some painful adjustement work to initiate now.
Stay tuned !
Radium
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@Radium
Excellent work as always! -
@Radium Smooch
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Hello,
yesterday evening, I debugged most of the aircraft, including nose gear…
Here we are :
Soon on your computers !
Radium
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@Radium is the final 3D model for the Su-27S? are you going to add the ECM antennas on the outside of the intakes of the engines? ECM antennas are characteristic of the Su-27S Flanker-B and Su-27UB Flanker-C, as well as having the IRST in the middle, 2 hard points per wing, one dorsal antenna and no IFR probe.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/841946357282504705/1082535488721784952/IMG_20230307_062653.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/841946357282504705/1082535488939892736/IMG_20230307_062718.jpg