Alpha Jet A Project
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Hello Everyone
Finally my Alpha Jet E/A projects its kicking in
New 3D model its under construction and a new Cockpit as Well
For now i’m charing with you some pics and im developing the FM, but i’ve reached the limit of my knowledge here. So if anyone can help me please comment or make any change in this dat file.
I hope for some collaborations with the FM and AFM experts around to make this as real as possible ( with the limited information we have)
Maybe Topolo or Radium?
Cheers and more news to come
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Oh! My little motorcycle!
Looks promising!
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All the best and I hope it will be lots of fun getting it all together.
Respect…… Shadow
PS: My friend Metelhead (UTC +0) might have some answers/advice if he is around, Cheers.
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Whats ya get, I picked off a 650 v-star with 3,500 on the clock, friday for less than 2 grand
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Oh! My little motorcycle!
Looks promising!
Any input for the .dat file? I recall you have some experience with this or no?
Thank you Dee-Jay
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i think FM masters need a complete 3d model first to tweak its fm.dat file.
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i think FM masters need a complete 3d model first to tweak its fm.dat file.
For sure at least regarding LOD positions , but CL, CG, Alfa and Beta slide slips can be done without new 3D model correct?
Working on the 3D models but at least i will have a few more months until ready. Right now the .dat file is referred to the old model already existing.
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For sure at least regarding LOD positions , but CL, CG, Alfa and Beta slide slips can be done without new 3D model correct?
yeah but for AFM, CL/CG need final model for measurement.
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i think FM masters need a complete 3d model first to tweak its fm.dat file.
I have friend named Starfighter that’s interested in building a F-106 I see you have one built already maybe you two can work out some magic.
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yeah but for AFM, CL/CG need final model for measurement.
Ok so just to sum up.
I’m currently changing the OFM data file. If i go for the AFM data file for the Alpha Jet i don’t need to change any values of the CG CL etc…. in the OFM?
AFM are crazy incomprehensible for me
Any input on what to change or any guide?
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Ok so just to sum up.
I’m currently changing the OFM data file. If i go for the AFM data file for the Alpha Jet i don’t need to change any values of the CG CL etc…. in the OFM?
AFM are crazy incomprehensible for me
Any input on what to change or any guide?
You really need to get MAV-JP, Topolo or Falcas ( I don’t know if He is still active) to look at it once its flyable.
I did a rough SU-27/30 FM/AFM a few years back, its a lot of work if its not your trade, even if it is, its still a lot of work.
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Any input for the .dat file?
I should still have paper checklists and some figures around, but not that much helpful for all the .dat requirement.
(apart form several close pictures of the cockpit if you need some is this (but sorry its in french)… as you can see … not that much as I said.
I recall you have some experience with this or no?
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You really need to get MAV-JP, Topolo or Falcas ( I don’t know if He is still active) to look at it once its flyable.
I did a rough SU-27/30 FM/AFM a few years back, its a lot of work if its not your trade, even if it is, its still a lot of work.
Thank man
Any helpful input regarding your experience with the SU-27 project that still applies to my new project?
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Any input for the .dat file?
I should still have paper checklists and some figures around, but not that much helpful for all the .dat requirement.
(apart form several close pictures of the cockpit if you need some is this (but sorry its in french)… as you can see … not that much as I said.
… but well … 15y ago.Dont worry Dee-Jay
You and Radium will my beta tester Pilots
If its good for you its good for me
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Hello,
very nice project here !
I see that you are doing the French version ! great !
Suggestion : Alpha-Jets done for simulation always lacked CTH (collimateur tête haute) assembly, because they were based from Patrouille de France pictures.
I will also help you to make a custom CTH sight…
Cheers,
Radium
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Hello,
very nice project here !
I see that you are doing the French version ! great !
Suggestion : Alpha-Jets done for simulation always lacked CTH (collimateur tête haute) assembly, because they were based from Patrouille de France pictures.
http://www.alphajide.fr/photos/alphajet-cockpit-04_moy.png
I will also help you to make a custom CTH sight…
Cheers,
Radium
I will do both A and E external model.
Internal PIT only for the E model for now. But of course it will be relatively simple to transform a E model PIT into a A model.
Hope to collaborate with you Radium and as always thank you
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I will do both A and E external model.
Internal PIT only for the E model for now. But of course it will be relatively simple to transform a E model PIT into a A model.
Hope to collaborate with you Radium and as always thank you
I hereby sincerely and willingly offer you my help !
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Hello Everyone
Finally my Alpha Jet E/A projects its kicking in
New 3D model its under construction and a new Cockpit as Well
WOW !!! Very nice! :bowd:
Cheers, :yo:
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As far as I’m concerned…
OFM need a complete rework to get a correct flight envelope and performance fitting (climb rate, turn rate, fuel flow…), I’ve all what is needed (and more) for that but time (to build a correct OFM from what I have requires usually 200/250 men.hours of work and I fear being alone, so it’s around half a year for me).
Then come the AFM topic, I do not know why you want to build an AFM because AFM file allow to customize the FLCS flavor of an a/c, and AJet never had any FLCS, on this topic, we can only rely on Mav if he think an AFM can help (but don’t hope being able to reproduce the trim behavior, for example, of an non FLCS a/c)
Last point, the 3Dmodel impact on the OFM file need few works (5/10 hours), so FM identification and modeling can be done in //.I’ve few other birds on the fire ATM, but as soon as I’ve complete them, I’ll start to work on AJet.
PS: you model and pit look very promizing, I really hope you will be able to complete this project.
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As far as I’m concerned…
OFM need a complete rework to get a correct flight envelope and performance fitting (climb rate, turn rate, fuel flow…), I’ve all what is needed (and more) for that but time (to build a correct OFM from what I have requires usually 200/250 men.hours of work and I fear being alone, so it’s around half a year for me).
Then come the AFM topic, I do not know why you want to build an AFM because AFM file allow to customize the FLCS flavor of an a/c, and AJet never had any FLCS, on this topic, we can only rely on Mav if he think an AFM can help (but don’t hope being able to reproduce the trim behavior, for example, of an non FLCS a/c)
Last point, the 3Dmodel impact on the OFM file need few works (5/10 hours), so FM identification and modeling can be done in //.I’ve few other birds on the fire ATM, but as soon as I’ve complete them, I’ll start to work on AJet.
PS: you model and pit look very promizing, I really hope you will be able to complete this project.
you could create a AFM -with NFBW aero module, like the A10, but it is extremly difficult, and the result can be disapointing.
HOWEVER.
It will be always better to create AFM , noeone can really fly OFM those days , everything is shit.
As always, first create good OFM for performance , then AFM for handling.
AFM alphajet can be based on the AV8 one
and yes topolo, you can do a lot of things with AFM files, and by tweaking them, i could even desactivate the FLCS behind ,but that requires you tweak the AV8 / F16 AFM to be stable and not unstable….
that is doable