TGP Pod weight makes the aircraft slowly bank to the right
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Hey, guys!!
Since my early days of Falcon BMS, i noticed something really annoying while in the skies: the F-16 kept banking slowly to the right and I had always to correct it manually, unless AP was engaged. Yesterday, a friend of mine brought this issue up and said it could be caused by the TGP Pod. We tested it and finally found out, thanks to him, what is the problem. I even thought it was my joystick…Question: is it a real experience pilots face IRL?
Thanks!!!
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If it’s in BMS and not in real life, real life is not realistic.
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TGP does have some weight and creates a bit of drag, but I’ve never really noticed it making the aircraft bank tbh…
If it’s really bothering you, though, this can be counteracted by putting some more weight on the left wing. E.g. when we fly a 501+ loadout (5 AIM-120, 1 AIM-9), I’ll make sure that the AIM-9 is on the right wing, so that the heavier AIM-120 balances out the lighter AIM-9 + TGP.
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Well, if you put an asymmetrical loadout on the Viper, it will bank, regardless if it’s a TGP or a 2000-pounder JDAM that’s unbalancing it. The only question is how much. In the latter case, your jet will be hard to keep flying straight, while in the former, the effect will be more subtle.
I suspect real pilots compensate this with a trim hat on the stick. That’s what the thing’s there for, after all. Also, loading a navpod or HTS on the opposite station helps negate the imbalance. I don’t fly with TGP only if I can help it.
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I would say that since flying BMS 4.33, I always had to give a touch of left roll when carrying a lone TGP.
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Question: is it a real experience pilots face IRL?
Of course.
You have to trim you a/c (checklist eve gives you the proper setting before take-off for asymmetric loadout) … and of course, good trimming values are only true for a given airspeed. Anytime your speed is changing, you have to compensate again.
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If it’s in BMS and not in real life, real life is not realistic.
Muahahahaha. Thank you! That just made may day. :nosep:
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I would also add that no individual jet flies exactly like any other. You’re always going to be slightly out of trim one way or another. These are 20 year old aluminum air frames after all.
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Thank you, guys, for all the answers!!
Lorik, I couldn’t agree more \o -
The exact F-16 that was the source of the FM data (NASA?) used by BMS was a little bent and asymmetric in flight. BMS’s FM reflects this or so I’ve been told.
Anyway, if you’ve flown Falcon 4.0 you get used to a very “on rails” flight model and because you’re always told how amazing and complex the FLCS in the F-16 is, most people think that of course it is super smart about roll and automatically compensates for asymmetric stores and other such effects. The truth is the F-16 is rather dumb in roll trim where the trim is just an angle bias.
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The exact F-16 that was the source of the FM data (NASA?) used by BMS was a little bent and asymmetric in flight. BMS’s FM reflects this or so I’ve been told.
Correct that is why you can notice that the model is easier to roll départ on one side
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You know what is also crazy. Pylons have drag in this sim.
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Do we have a photo of that NASA Test Jet? Might be kinda cool to have that skin.
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Why is it crazy ?
crazy is often used as an adjective with a meaning other than its literal one, in English. Could have been the intent here?
Consider the phrase: crazy level of detail
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